Omen of Clarity proc rate

Floria · 03/22/07, 9:31 PM

Apologies if this was covered elsewhere, but I couldn't find it here, and Wowwiki didn't give the specifics.

Can anyone detail the proc rate or how WoW calculates the chance or occurence of a druid's Omen of Clarity? I'd assume it's like Crusader, but more PPM, but then again, it could vary by form. Thank you in advance for your input.

Exewut · 03/22/07, 9:49 PM

The only number I have ever seen is 8% procrate, of white and yellow attacks.
I'm afraid that's all the information I have about the skill.

Note, this info comes from wow official boards, so it is by no means 100% reliable.

◊ Shalas · 03/22/07, 9:57 PM

1 PPM is the number I've seen tossed around.

Boevis · 03/23/07, 12:08 AM

It used to be 1 ppm, I can't confirm it's stayed the same since it got moved to the resto tree though.

Athinira · 03/23/07, 2:22 PM

5 PPM or close to that. Its neither 1 PPM (and has never been as far as i have known the ability, its too low) nor 8 % since its PPM based.

Edit: Also, the procrate is cut in one-third for Swipe since its an AOE ability.

• Playered · 03/23/07, 2:27 PM

5 PPM? thats one per 12sec, its _NEVER_ been that notable for me whenever I've used it, 1 PPM seems more realistic from experience, and its always seemed that way since retail.

Wtb OOC working for spell casts :|

oldmandennis · 03/23/07, 2:47 PM

It is currently either WAY more then one PPM or a flat %.

Floria · 03/23/07, 2:54 PM

Thanks for the replies. By the way, if it's 1PPM, that's a 1/60 chance of it proccing per attack in cat form, and a 2.5/60 (1/24) chance per attack in bear form. The reason why it might seem more is because it can proc off instant attacks, so in reality with a cat spamming Shred, it might proc 2-3 times per minute.

It's pretty much the same as MS warriors and Hemo rogues with Crusader.

TheOnly · 03/23/07, 5:23 PM

Originally Posted by Playered

5 PPM? thats one per 12sec, its _NEVER_ been that notable for me whenever I've used it, 1 PPM seems more realistic from experience, and its always seemed that way since retail.

Wtb OOC working for spell casts :|

In cat form, farming mobs it goes off 1-2 times per mob almost. 1PPM is way too low for that.

Athinira · 03/23/07, 7:32 PM

Originally Posted by Playered

5 PPM? thats one per 12sec, its _NEVER_ been that notable for me whenever I've used it, 1 PPM seems more realistic from experience, and its always seemed that way since retail.

Wtb OOC working for spell casts :|

Sorry, 5 PPM was exaggerated, i was remembering wrong, its around 2.5 PPM (no its not 1, im having OOC proc so much that its quite insane. Its most definitely above 1). This was recorded with the addon procwatch a druid had installed.

HaklePrime · 03/23/07, 8:03 PM

Originally Posted by TheOnly

In cat form, farming mobs it goes off 1-2 times per mob almost. 1PPM is way too low for that.

Do you frequently begin combat against a new mob with OoC active? I've found that when I engage a mob, with OoC active, it has an extremely high chance to proc again within the first 5-8 seconds of active combat with the mob.

I'm fairly confident that whatever it's PPM % is, it's relative only to a combat cycle. In about 8min of combat against Mag's last night, it procced 13 times. Compare that to my typical Primal Air farming cycle, where I get no less than 30 procs in a 5-7 min stretch.

This to me seems to imply that there is an internal cooldown of sorts, and that perhaps internal cooldowns themselves are relative to combat cycles, as I see the same effects from my Hourglass. It's quite a bit harder to test than with OoC, due to the short duration of the buff, but very frequently, if RotU is active when combat drops, and is still active when I re-enter combat with a new mob, I will see the hourglass proc again before it's technically supposed to.

Athinira · 03/24/07, 7:28 AM

Originally Posted by HaklePrime

This to me seems to imply that there is an internal cooldown of sorts, and that perhaps internal cooldowns themselves are relative to combat cycles, as I see the same effects from my Hourglass. It's quite a bit harder to test than with OoC, due to the short duration of the buff, but very frequently, if RotU is active when combat drops, and is still active when I re-enter combat with a new mob, I will see the hourglass proc again before it's technically supposed to.

I don't believe there is an internal cooldown. I had OOC proc instantly 2 times after each other several times (even once had a tripple proc in a 5 second window).

dukes · 03/24/07, 8:43 AM

I'd say it's probably 2ppm base, but ppm works out a % value based on normal attack speed (so for cat it works it out as 2/60 = ~3%), but then it procs off instants too - obviously that means for cat it's more like 5% with all the instants you end up doing. For bear it works out as even more than that because of lacerate being instant and it working off a 2.5 attack speed. Almost certain it must work this way due to getting a lot less procs when just autoattacking in healing gear while doing 5 mans to get random procs just to help mana efficiency (and doing naxx trash pre-tbc). I'd agree with Athinira on the internal cooldown though, definitely doesn't have one as I've had it chain proc at least twice before.

Athinira · 03/24/07, 2:12 PM

Originally Posted by dukes

I'd say it's probably 2ppm base, but ppm works out a % value based on normal attack speed (so for cat it works it out as 2/60 = ~3%), but then it procs off instants too - obviously that means for cat it's more like 5% with all the instants you end up doing. For bear it works out as even more than that because of lacerate being instant and it working off a 2.5 attack speed. Almost certain it must work this way due to getting a lot less procs when just autoattacking in healing gear while doing 5 mans to get random procs just to help mana efficiency (and doing naxx trash pre-tbc). I'd agree with Athinira on the internal cooldown though, definitely doesn't have one as I've had it chain proc at least twice before.

Im going to install procwatch later and find out on autoattacks.