Hey gang....if sure it's been asked a million times here. How much of a hit rating is overkill? Could one of yas point me to a thread about it? Did some digging, no results.... thanks in advance!

Well, anything past the cap is too much.

Rogue DPS Spreadsheet

Pages 35-40 deal with determining the hit rating cap.

I believe this is what is expected, although I don't think each case has been fully tested.

WEx Only (360 weapon skill): 307, 308
WEx + Latro's (363 weapon skill): 302, 303
WEx + 2xLatro's (should be 367 weapon skill): 296, 297
WEx + 2xLatro's + Grips of the Deftness/ACLG (or equivalent; 369 weapon skill): 293, 294
No WEx (350 weapon skill): 323, 324

Higher Number should produce no misses, while the lower will produce some.

Blue CM said you get .2 chance to hit per weapon skill, but it seems to be a bit different from testing.
Rogue DPS Spreadsheet has most of the numbers/text (as Mimesis pointed out).

I've been looking on google for some kind of info about feral druid +hit and I couldn't find any.

Well, I've come across this thread: http://boards.worldofraids.com/topic-2375-1.html but the question on what hit rating you need against raid mobs in karazhan and serpentshrine for example was unanswered.

Would be appreciated if you could direct me to a thread or answer the above question.

Page 38 would mean post #? Some of us have different forum settings.

Just want to verify this:
For a 2h vs. a level 73 mob: 10.6% hit
For DW vs. a level 73 mob: 29.6% hit

Is that right?

Thanks!

That's incorrect. DW vs a level 73 mob, the current theory is 25.5%

05.64% for 2h
24.64% for DW

around ~0.2% per level above you.

Not 24.64 for DW - see the aforementioned thread. Testing indicates that it had to be more than that. Hence the 25.5 theory.

Once I get another 1.05% hit I'll report in on that value in a raid setting.

I suggest you read Rogue DPS Spreadsheet post 972, which explains why the base miss chance against a level 73 mob is currently theorized to be 25.5%

Note that we can't actually prove this is the case without a *lot* more data, but it's the best theory we have at the moment, and fits with all the data observed so far.

It does show, however, fairly conclusively that the base miss rate is higher than 24.6% - again, see the post for details.

So am I to understand that the 2H miss rate vs a 73 is 5.64% with no +hit rating or talents correct?

I'm not aware of any testing of that, but, off the top of my head, if the logic for dual-wield is correct, it seems possible that it's actually 6.5%. Would be easy enough to test, though. Just equip a 2H, throw on between 90 and 100 hit rating (and no +weapon skill) vs a boss and see if you ever miss.

Also as far as I know there is a difference in the miss % for normal white hits and special attacks for 2H as well (although I never bothered enough to know exactly what is the value).

Just to throw in a few more diffrent values...
This is the miss chance for Ranged Weapons according to the Hunter Class Mechanics thread. So either it´s diffrent for ranged attacks or one of the two values is wrong.

Almost positive it is, as Hunters have had a tendency to almost be at the level of annoyed when they see items with +hit on it, due simply to the fact that it's so easy for them to get to their hit cap.

From a design standpoint it would make sense as well. Factoring in the idea of ranged attrition, a miss from a ranged unit or player is far more penalizing than a melee unit/player. Though with an MMO the idea of ranged attrition is a bit convoluted, it's still a principle that needs to be taken into consideration.

That used to be true to a degree.

In TBC, a hunter needs to carefully select gear in order to get sufficient hit - specifically I'm now looking for gear that offers some hit rating without using too much item budget on it.

Hunters now should be aiming to get somewhere around the following -

PVP: 5% (79 hit rating)
PVE Raiding: 8.6% (136 hit rating)

In the general consensus, what would the PVE/Raiding PVE %'s be for a Rogue?

Silent, are you talking about the cap or about "a point to shoot at"
The cap is still under investigation for lvl70+ mobs. But personal opinion is if you dont sacrifice too many other stats aim for 250+ hit rating.

I was discussing +hit with a guildie, and he was under the impression that melee and casters were both subject to the rule that mobs always retain a 1% resist/miss chance.

From the discussions I've been reading here, it sounds like that rule only holds for casters (various talk of people expecting zero misses in testing, etc.)

Could someone verify this?

I don't know how conclusive of an answer you will find. It is possible to eliminate misses for all intents and purposes, but people with that amount of hit rating have showed up with an unexplained miss here or there (a rare case). Whether it was due to some tiny percentage of unavoidable miss, or something else, I haven't seen an answer.