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Old 04/07/07, 1:08 AM   #1
afhouston
Von Kaiser
 
Human Paladin
 
Lothar
Spellsurge enchant vs. +30int or +81 heal for paladins

http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=28003
Spellsurge enchant
3% chance for party to gain 100 mana over 10 sec

Seems it procs every 20 seconds based on wowhead comments.

I currently have this on my Gavel of Pure light. Im wondering though if +30 int would be better though since the 30int functions as spell crit (free heals)


I guess it's situational based on how many casters are in my particular group. So I have to ask:

1. Would you take this over the +81 heal or +30 int enchant?
2. What weapon would you enchant it on (My guild does Karazhan and working on Gruul)


I ask because I don't see a lot of people with this enchant. Some have suggested the proc is 15% though that was beta datamining and I haven't heard much other than anecdotal information from live servers.

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Old 04/07/07, 2:38 AM   #2
Mizerok
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Troll Shaman
 
Spinebreaker
I am personally planning on getting either just a secondary weapon for Spellsurge or getting Eredar Life-Staff for it with it having three sockets and 15mp5 already there, it just seems right to stack a ton of regen on. Honestly, Spellsurge for a heal spamming pally doesn't seem too bad, but gettin git on more people then just you will make it better.

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Old 04/07/07, 2:50 AM   #3
Drekor
Glass Joe
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Emerald Dream
I'm going for spellsurge simply because I'm not the one with mana issues, my group is. I haven't got to try it with 5 people in a group all using it but it certainly is a big big help to our priests and other casters(even helps keep the shadowpriest going!).

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Old 04/07/07, 4:47 AM   #4
Fjord
Bald Bull
 
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Blood Elf Paladin
 
Mal'Ganis
We've had a few other threads about spellsurge but yeah the proc rate is still ~15% (I think it might be 30% for paladins) but there is a 30sec cooldown. I'm almost always in a group of at least four mana users so its my enchant of choice.

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Old 04/07/07, 10:01 AM   #5
 frmorrison
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Ashstrike
Human Paladin
 
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I would think since the enchant rare most people don't know what it does, or think the proc rate is at 3%.

That said, I think it is the best Pally raiding enchant and 30 int is the best Pally PvP enchant.

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Old 04/13/07, 9:56 AM   #6
Creech
Glass Joe
 
Troll Priest
 
Gorefiend
I currently have the Spellsurge enchant on my Shard of the Virtuous and have been quite happy with it. I think the mistake in viewing this enchant is thinking in terms of helping yourself. I barely notice that additional mana on top of the ~400 mp5 I normally have. My caster party members, on the other hand, tell me that the 100 mana every 30 seconds over an X minute fight actually helped them out a lot.

You'll never see a mage or warlock with this enchant when there's spellpower to be had, but for the healers whose role is that of helping others, it is, in my opinion, a very worthwhile investment.

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Old 04/24/07, 1:31 AM   #7
SindirHH
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Night Elf Priest
 
Muradin
Any raid groups have multiple members in their raids with this? Seems like it could be very viable and/or useful.

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Old 04/24/07, 1:42 AM   #8
felixjendrusch
Glass Joe
 
Orc Shaman
 
Gorgonnash (EU)
Spellsurge

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Old 04/24/07, 8:07 AM   #9
desertswarm
Von Kaiser
 
Undead Priest
 
Daggerspine
As you approach 1500 +healing the mana returned from this enchant becomes more valuable than 81+healing since each point of mana can be used that much more effectively. Its similar to the classic crit versus +dmg relation that dpsers calculate.

Last edited by desertswarm : 04/24/07 at 8:09 AM. Reason: To gain more relevance

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