I might be mistaken, but don't pets such as Shadowfiend and Water Elemental use your stats at the time of casting, and continue to use those stats until they die rather than until the trinkets go down? So, for example, getting Icon, Eye of Mag, Spellstrike, and so on all at the same time would give an increase over the entire duration of the WE, and do much more damage than if each of them were to proc while the WE was active?
I might be completely mistaken about this, I guess I assumed that's the way it worked with popping trinkets before Shadowfiend. Guess I haven't really payed attention to that since I assumed that's how it worked.

As vokzhen said, the Pet receives stats and damage based on your own stats. It's the same reason shadow priests like to use their pet when Silver Crescent is up.

Yea, I'm going to guess I was wrong. Shadowfiend hitting for a little over 200 with +1239, waited for trinket to run out and took off weapons and he was hitting at about 170 with 755. So it updates in realtime, it would appear. Probably should have tested that before I posted something >.<

99.99999% sure that the stats that pets get is in constant flux, ie directly related to your current values. So that if you use Icon the elementals damage increases while it is active and then decreases when the buff finishes.

What is fun though is realizing that if you are grouped with a Shaman and he has Wrath of Air out you get more +damage from it and if you summon your elemental he gets +40 damage from you having more damage and then another 101 damage from the totem itself. Pretty significant dps increase especially if he gets bloodlusted too.

Thats weird behavior. I didn't think the elemental had a melee attack. Mine just stands still when it runs OOM. It definitely needs to get a larger percentage of the mages intellect though since it runs OOM without bloodlust even if you don't have a shadow priest.

I'm wondering, if your new version includes the haste changes already, that go live tomorrow?

I also noticed some weird bugs: First of all i had a huge increase in my base spell dmg at one point after switching talents and gear back and forth a bit (value as shown in 'calculation' F47), and the new base spelldmg was just unrealistically high. I also noticed weird values for my gear-based hitrating - it's simply too high compared to my live stat (which is 166 compared to 201 in your sheet). There might be a bug with the 4-set T6 bonus, b/c each time i unequip the 4th T6 item, i lose a chunk of the hit rating ... could it be, that you add some hitrating when applying the 4*T6 bonus?

no shadowpriest? when I was frost I never had my elemental run OOM when bloodlusted due to VT mana return.

Dochas, a shadow priest usually covers my water elementals mana issues, even when lusted.

My fault for not thinking about other fights. We run 1 SP for Illidan (well for everything now that our other SP wowquit). Normally the SP is with 3 mages and a elem shammy but for Illidan hes with a healer group.

Guess I wasn't paying enough attention to the few other fights I did as frost with bloodlusted elemental when I did have a SP.

Hi Vontre,

I sent you a private message about this before i checked this thread. I am posting here after I remembered the thread. I am using your mage spreadsheet and noticed there are several dps totals for the same spell school and build. Which one is the true max theoretical dps for that build while casting in a 5 min fight?

1) Spells DPS TIME TOTAL
Fireball: 1930 6:30 578,976 max

2) Fire Frost Arcane
Build Comparison: 1,971 1,796 1,783 DPS

OR

3) Under "cycle builder" tab
DPS: 1884.433587
Time: 6:44
Total Damage: 565,330

Also, why is the build comparison dps different than the spells dps? As I was reading through this thread I read somewhere that cycle builder took into account mana consumption too. I'll venture a guess to my own question and assume the mana consumption part of the cycle builder brings the dps down.

Using Vontre's sig the version that I get is 2.7.2.1 modified on 25 September.