Hmm. So it certainly sounds like wands work off the same mechanics as Arcane Shot (uses physical ranged crit/hit stats, procs JoW, Imp LotP, does magical damage and is hence affected by CoS/Misery, but not spell power to caster/target). But their base damage is calculated off purely weapon damage.

I wonder if wanding builds up Hunter's Mark stacks on the PTR.

I noticed that wanding procs my [Darkmoon Card: Crusade] so I thought I could use it has a fast way to reset the stack without using any mana. Then I noticed I had two aura of the crusade buffs on me and realized that it does not proc the +spell damage, it procs the +AP. Interesting indeed.

I hate to hijack your thread but for some reason it's not letting me post new ones. What is the critical damage bonus for spells? Is it 150% damage?

Yes, spell crits are 150% base.

Perhaps an oversight on Blizzard's part then, as most (if not all) of the Wands that have been available so far from TBC raiding/quests have been of the shadow damage variety.

It's almost all of them. Every epic wand and all but one rare wand of ilvl 100 or higher (except arena ones) is shadow. WoWhead wands It's really not practical to say don't use a shadow wand when every single one is a shadow wand. Having a special wand that's not shadow that I only switch in when I need to wand (which is very rare) just isn't worth the hassle.

You never 'need to wand' so if you go OOM and you have no other DPS options just sit there and wait for mana. It's really not practical to waste ISB charges on wanding when they could be used on SW: D and SB.

Only if the fight prohibits melee in some way. Furthermore there are literally dozens and dozens of low level wands you can pick up off the AH in a matter of seconds that offer ranged JoW procs without the massive DPS loss of consuming ISB charges. If you're OOM then the stat loss is irrelevent anyway.

I can think of many fights where I would rather not be in melee range, and would rather wand than whack with my staff. Plus, you will probably get more JoW procs from a fast wand than from a slow staff. And the stat loss is not irrelevant if some of those stats are mana regen.

Now all that being said I see your point, for some fights it may be better to not consume iSB charges if possible. But for other fights, the JoW procs could also be important.

For the uninitiated (like me) who don't have warlock talents memorized... He's talking about Improved Shadow Bolt:
"Your Shadow Bolt critical strikes increase the next 4 sources of Shadow damage dealt to the target by 4%/8%/12%/16%/20%. Effect lasts a maximum of 12 seconds." <<EDIT: I have been informed that this spell description is obsolete. Anybody have the current version?>>

It is very common and (in some mana-intensive fights) critical for healers to pause and wand while a pally judges wisdom. If your guild really relies on ISB for additional shadow damage, then you really need to find a way to live with your wanding healers.

Our guild calls out when we judge Wisdom for the healers to wand up some mana. Perhaps if y'all do the same thing (or have the pally change the raid icon during Wistom Judgements) then you can do something besides shadowbolt. (For example, lifetap/bandage or just wand up some mana for yourself!)

<< EDIT: Removed comment about SW:Pain since DOTs do not consume charges. >>

Periodic damage doesn't consume charges. You didn't even quote the right description of the spell!

Just delete your post imo...

It's very easy to switch to a fast, green +spirit wand that doesn't have shadow damage. It will help you regen even more mana without hurting all of your warlocks and shadow priests (surprise surpirse, eating ISB reduces your shadow priest's ability to regen your raid's mana).

Once you get into the 25 mans, this becomes more important, as you can have up to 5-6 people benefitting from ISB, and enrage timers become a much bigger deal.