Originally Posted by Rurik
Aye, that's my point. Miss recorded with sub 6% and I've yet to see a miss recorded with 6%.
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Posting to show support for this on my account.
With 24 FCSR (is used Earthwarden as DPS weapon for a time) and 101 hitrating (6.39%) i never missed an attack against a level 73 boss mob.
So given the discussion at hand with the other examples set above, i would personally say that while we don't have 100% accurate numbers, 20 Feral Combat Skill Rating (5 skill total) does indeed seem to give around 3% chance to hit against a raid boss for a Feral Druid. This makes Shapeshifter's Signet a big "yay" for Feral Druid raid DPS. This is especially considering the latest DPS simulations by Rannasha on the EU Druid Forums, showing that hitrating is inferior to a Feral Druid compared to agility and strength
unless its distributed as a hybrid stat on a DPS item (in regards to how the Item Value system works in regards to assigning multiple stats to a gear piece). Feral Combat Skill Rating is, in this regard, a very cheap DPS stat for the first 5 stats that is.
Rannasha's thread can be found here:
[Math] Hit rating, how good is it really?
If anyone has some more numbers to post in regards to Feral Combat Skill and misses, i would strongly encourage them to do so.
Boevis:
Crit isn't worth that much.
I hate posting such a blanket statement, but it's just not
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Just a question, when you are referring to "crit", are you talking about critrating or agility specifically?
My PvE DPS setup includes a heavy bunch of agility, all my gems are pretty much 8 agi. A friend said to me at a point then, that i was potentially gimping my DPS because my stats, in their current form, would make Strength an overall stronger stat for me. I digged a bit around on the subject and found this, which to my info assumed a full Feral specced Druid:
My current setup gives me, totally unbuffed, approximately 36.5% chance to crit and 2550 attack power. This means that, even in my current high agility setup, I'm actually better off still stacking agility. I can only imagine this increases even more when you attain a new weapon with Feral Attack Power (in my case, I'm using Feral Staff of Lashing from Heroic Botanica because Illhoof has refused to drop his staff. If i attained, say, Season 2 Arena Mace, my spot on the graph above would put me even more into the area where 1 agility > 1 strength).
Now talking raid buffs, druids already "per default" have Leader of the Pack. So when we are achieving more power in a DPS group, most of the buffs we are going to get are going to increase our Attack Power more than it will increase our chance to crit. Lets be generous and give the druid Grace of Air totem which increases his chance to crit by around 3.5%. I don't think that it that this, in any way, is enough to push the druid towards strength being a more powerful stat once you add:
Strength of Earth Totem
Battle Shout
Enhancement Shamans 10% Attack Power Buff
Possibly Trueshot Aura (though unlikely)
Bottom line is though that i believe you are vastly underestimating crit, or at least you are underestimating agility. The graph above, assuming it can be trusted, shows that as a Feral Druid in high end DPS gear, you will in most case scenarios always be better off stacking Agility than Strength.
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Edit:
In addition to this, i have some interesting stats to add for Hourglass and Omen of Clarity.
Spending one hour in Blasted Lands i was able to get some interested results in regards to the two mentioned entities above.
Omen of Clarity's procrate, based on 30 minutes of testing, is 1.4 Procs Per Minute.
Chance to Proc in Cat Form:
100 * 1.4 * 1 / 60 = 2.33% per Melee Attack
Bear Form:
2.33 * 2.5 = 5.83%
[Hourglass of the Unraveller] is theoretically easier to calculate since we already have the necessary stats datamined: 10% chance to proc on a Critical Strike with a 30 second Internal Cooldown.
Having said that, i decided to spend another 30 minutes in Blasted Lands. I made a macro that spammed Mangle (Cat) constantly using the Logitech G15 Keyboard. I was using Tier4 2 piece setbonus and Omen of Clarity, and had 37.3% crit chance. With these stats and constant Mangle spam, i found it to be up exactly one-sixth (1/6) of the time, or putting it another way, the Exact PPM with these stats for a feral druid, if you include the Internal cooldown is very close to 1 PPM. This means that for a Feral Druid in early Kara/Heroic epic DPS gear, you will be looking at a passive 50 Attack Power from the Hourglass.