[Warlock] Comparison between + hit, + crit and + spell damage

Morigane · 04/25/07, 1:13 PM

I was wondering if there was some kind of spreadsheet somewhere that would allow me to find out what stats between these would have the most benefit for me right now. Or, alternatively, I would like to know at what point does 1 dmg = ? hit = ? crit.
(I know there is one on a post below me, but I cant use it as I dont have Excel

Psy · 04/25/07, 1:14 PM

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/d...displaylang=EN
Not entirely sure if that will help, honestly.

Edit: Please, whatever else you do, beat CV in progression. And I do believe you have your server listing a little off

niska · 04/25/07, 1:30 PM

download a mod called Dr. Damage.

Always stack +dmg. You have no +hit talents outside of affliction, so you can benefit from up to 200 hit rating on boss encounters. Unless you have ruin, crit rating is practically useless.

Noximus · 04/25/07, 1:46 PM

Originally Posted by Morigane

I was wondering if there was some kind of spreadsheet somewhere that would allow me to find out what stats between these would have the most benefit for me right now. Or, alternatively, I would like to know at what point does 1 dmg = ? hit = ? crit.
(I know there is one on a post below me, but I cant use it as I dont have Excel

Get Open Office or Excel Viewer (link from Psy).

Demi9OD · 04/25/07, 2:20 PM

Pawn is a mod that will show tooltips ingame for weighted values on items. These are my pawn values using my gear, full raid buffs, and 3 builds, 41/0/20, 7/43/11, and 0/21/40 (shadow). They were all gathered from the Leulier spreadsheet with ISB model 1. All values are relative to SpellPower.

["Scales"] = {
		["Destro value"] = {
			["Values"] = {
				["SpellHitRating"] = 1.27,
				["RedSocket"] = 9,
				["SpellCritRating"] = 0.75,
				["BlueSocket"] = 9,
				["YellowSocket"] = 9,
				["SpellPower"] = 1,
				["ShadowSpellDamage"] = 0.89,
				["MetaSocket"] = 12,
			},
		},
		["Afflic value"] = {
			["Values"] = {
				["SpellHitRating"] = 0.66,
				["RedSocket"] = 9,
				["SpellCritRating"] = 0.45,
				["BlueSocket"] = 9,
				["YellowSocket"] = 9,
				["SpellPower"] = 1,
				["ShadowSpellDamage"] = 0.9,
				["MetaSocket"] = 12,
			},
		},
		["Demo value"] = {
			["Values"] = {
				["SpellHitRating"] = 1.37,
				["RedSocket"] = 9,
				["SpellCritRating"] = 0.61,
				["BlueSocket"] = 9,
				["YellowSocket"] = 9,
				["SpellPower"] = 1,
				["ShadowSpellDamage"] = 0.81,
				["MetaSocket"] = 12,
			},
		},
	},

Kahra · 04/26/07, 5:52 AM

The following data is from my spreadsheet (well, it is not a spreadsheet but implemented in octave).

Gear: +1000 dmg (without FA), +10% hit, +3% crit


			
 build (+1000 dmg)               dps    hburn    mix     cpm     k_s   s/cr   s/hr

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

 [70] UA/dev          41/0/20   793.8    20.7   85.9    31.1   4.74   0.49   0.64

 [70] 44/0/17         44/0/17   785.4    21.4   85.8    31.1   4.69   0.51   0.85

 [70] 41/0/20 D       41/0/20   636.7  -289.2   82.5    17.0   3.57   0.34   0.09

 [70] 40/0/21         40/0/21   744.1    15.3   84.7    29.8   4.54   0.72   0.79

 [70] 0/21/40 (*)     0/21/40   775.9    85.0   74.3    30.2   4.86   0.71   0.95

 [70] 0/21/40 (*) F   0/21/40   808.5    72.3   11.8    30.0   4.80   0.55   1.00

 [70] 0/21/40 (*) PF  0/21/40   810.5    60.4    0.0    29.3   4.88   0.59   0.97

 [70] Siphon/SF       21/0/40   778.5    63.4   74.4    31.2   4.81   0.67   0.71

 [70] Siphon/SF F     21/0/40   792.0    52.8   21.6    31.0   4.70   0.53   0.75

 [70] 19/21/21 (*)    19/21/21  740.8   135.7   84.7    29.0   4.53   0.77   0.88

 [70] 21/21/19 (*)    21/21/19  732.3    51.0   84.8    29.8   4.47   0.54   0.78

 [70] 21/21/19 (*)F   21/21/19  700.5    50.2   23.9    29.6   4.01   0.33   0.83

 [70] 30/0/31         30/0/31   758.2    56.7   74.1    31.2   4.48   0.73   0.70

 [70] 30/0/31 F       30/0/31   735.9    46.1   25.2    31.0   4.12   0.57   0.72

 [70] 41/8/12         41/8/12   766.7    22.9   85.6    31.1   4.57   0.56   0.63

 [70] 0/40/21 succ    0/40/21   788.3   130.9   83.6    28.6   4.44   0.77   1.15

 [70] 0/40/21 imp     0/40/21   728.3   130.9   82.3    28.6   4.09   0.76   1.14

 [70] 0/40/21 imp OM  0/40/21   726.2   130.9   81.6    28.6   4.06   0.84   1.13

 [70] 0/40/21 (imp) F 0/40/21   687.0   118.6   15.8    28.3   3.59   0.58   1.19

 [70] 0/40/21 imp PF  0/40/21   654.8   115.2    0.0    27.6   3.46   0.63   1.21

 [70] 21/40/0 succ    21/40/0   724.4    26.8   82.8    26.1   3.98   0.56   0.84

 [70] 7/40/13 succ    7/40/13   763.6   137.4   83.6    28.9   4.21   0.59   1.11

 [70] 45/5/11         45/5/11   766.7    22.9   85.6    31.1   4.57   0.56   0.63

 [70] 30/21/10 (*)    30/21/10  770.3    44.3   85.6    29.8   4.71   0.60   0.78

 [70] 7/0/4x          7/0/4x    736.2    93.9   72.9    30.5   4.50   0.73   0.92

dps: Raw dps. Should be multiplied by contribution from CoS, CoE, scorch debuff, SW, misery and SV (*).
hburn: Amount of external life tap healing needed (health/s)
mix: Shadow damage percentage.
cpm: Casts per minute
k_s: Build scaling (dps increase/spell damage)
s/cr: Amount of spell damage corresponding to 1 crit rating
h/cr: Amount of spell damage corresponding to 1 hit rating

(*) The effect of SV is included in the figure, but the contribution is normalized against a 15% crit rate and that normalization factor is not included (a 9.6% shadow boost).

Note that the 41/0/20 has 5/5 suppression (which reduces the value of hit rating somewhat). The 44/0/17 build only has 3 points in suppression (and hence get full benefit).

It is interesting to note that the affliction builds don't require any external healing at all for sustained dps with 3/3 frozen shadowweave (buffed dps easily exceeds 1000 dps).