HoTs yes, PW:S no. Shield is too mana inefficient and you don't know when the repentance is going to hit. I suppose your spriest is dpsing, so depending on mana it might be worth helping buffer, but it wouldn't be my first suggestion.

If your warrior is getting bursted from 50% to 0 in 2 seconds then IMO it's an issue in gearing. How much HP does your warrior run with? I just don't see the chance of taking 1 CB after a repentance being life threatening. Repentance does weird things sometimes and that might mean that maiden runs away from the tank so that he's got his back facing her for her first attack on him. If the tank can die in 2 seconds with the threat of crushes, then you'll have problems even with a tank with improved shield block.

Still, if you're having trouble with maiden but can get past curator then something else is wrong. Are your healers reacting to health defeceit, or are they queueing/cancelling heals? On the other hand, are they spam healing and overhealing and wasting mana? Do they have sufficient gear? Does your raid have sufficient HP? Is holy fire DoT staying on your DPS too long causing your healers to spend too much time or mana healing? I don't remember how hard maiden hits, but I know I can take a couple hits in my healing gear without going down, as sometimes the MT doesn't take a consecration hit to break out right away.

Yes, if your tank is taking 4k hits something is wrong. You need more gear on your tank, and if that doesn't cut it then yeah, you'll need imp shield block. I just can't get how you can heal through curator, but not maiden.

Ensure your tank has 490 defense, 11k+ hp unbuffed, is using shield block every cooldown. If this is the case and he's still going 50%-0 in 2 seconds, then he's going to have to respec.

I just don't think that it's necessary, not for maiden.

Prince, yeah, it's going to be nasty without imp shield block. But maiden? Naw, you should be able to do it.

Actually I am not dpsing on Maiden at all other than a searing totem, which costs 1 GCD and a trivial amount of mana. I'm in full healing gear and basically spot healing the raid, except for pre-repentance, when the druid goes into the consecration (during that period I spam LHW on the tank).

As far as using hots on the tank, IMO he should keep rejuv and lifebloom up, but not waste the mana for regrowth. Also our druid is currently using HT7 to top off the raid, and I told him that I'd handle the raid if he just throws a lifebloom (low mana, instant cast) on people that get hurt. HT7 is a lot of cast time to be using on people other than the tank, IMO.

PS I am in Cynful's guild and arena team.

I should add that we've downed Maiden several times. This is the first time we've gone at it with a mostly pvp specced raid, though, hence the reason for the thread.

As for curator, he's never been tough for us - in fact we two-shotted him on our first day of getting to him.

ehm just a little thing, you talk about paladin and spriest each dispelling half the room. In my experience if you have a shaman he can usually stop all holy fires on his group with grounding totem, we have to get pretty unlucky to get a holy fire in a group with a shaman. While we usually have a dispeller in each group, they usually just dps/heal, and if someone actually gets hit by holy fire he usually dies because we're not paying attention at it and they're standing out of los but that doesn't happen very often.

Sounds indeed like the tank is too squishy. The maiden doesn't hit that hard. Last week we had a resto shaman stepping into the consecration in order to break the repentance which kept me pretty much in a good shape. The whole fight was rather anticlimactic after Moroes somehow I agree though that speccing prot makes a certain difference. Perhaps even a hybrid tank might be here a solution (grab shieldblock, defiance and last stand).

As a 31/30/0 Warrior (decently well geared, third best in the guild after our MT and feral druid OT), I tried tanking Maiden about two weeks ago.

No Imp Shield Block hurts. It really does. You just can't push crushing off the table without that extra chance to block. Every time I died, it was to a crushing after a successful block. Imp Shield Block would have prevented all of those.

We're in the process of moving our raid schedule to Tue/Wed/Thurs (Kara/Kara/Gruul+Mag) and this allows a bunch of us to respec to PvE during the week and then respec back to PvP. 100g a week is not that bad anymore, since you can now farm that much in about an hour. I view it as an investment -- it saves us time and money (repair bills). There's really no reason not to if you set up your raiding schedule right.

i would recommend putting your shadow priest inside consecration range so he comes out of repentance. With vampiric embrace he shouldn't even notice the damage. Also, I have found that we don't have mana issues here, so the shadowpriest goes in the melee group to counter the consecration damage. When consecration clears repentance, the Shadow Priest can PW:S the tank and dispell a healer; your Blessing of Sacrifice paladin should dispell another healer before healing. On the other hand if your tank is dying in less than 3 seconds, you do need better gear on him.

Repentance is not dispellable. If one healer can't keep your tank up through repentance, you either need a better healer or a better tank.

Most of it's been covered. Tank 'zerker rages the repentance (this prevents him from taking the initial 2k holy damage hit) and goes into it with full health with HoTs up. One healer breaks repentance (BoSacrifice or stepping into the consecration and then out again) and chains heals to see the tank through. If something goes wrong and the tanks isn't topped off then he uses a panic button (healthstone, potion, last stand, shield wall) to survive.

We've actually done it a couple times grouping everyone on one side of the room (ranged people pair up) and it's worked fine even with just one dispeller. Grounding totems are basically awesome for this encounter.

The tank without imp. shield block may be the difference. When we first hit Maiden she did hit quite hard and crushed harder, and too many crushings is less than healthy.

Sorry if this is hijacking the thread, but my guild's been having trouble with Maiden, moreso than any other boss in the instance aside from maybe Aran (we've killed everything but Nightbane and Illhoof). The biggest issue is the repentance. We use the blessing of sacrifice method, but what often happens is that our paladin gets out of repentance, and then Maiden immediately goes for the him and kills him in one or two hits, or she'll go for a melee class to the same effect. Has anyone else experienced this, and if so, any ideas on how to avoid this problem?