Rerolled

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32410

Has anyone done any tests on this to determine proc rate? Or if not, does anyone have the ability to make it on the test server so I could do so myself?

 

Surfer74

I am curious as well... where do jewelcrafters get the pattern? I hope this gem is available right after 2.10 goes live

 

Mu

This one's a drop, I think. The other new melee one (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32409#00z) is exalted consortium rep.

 

Lukaichi

Alchimist can make them !! and I guess a Jewelcrafter can cut it !!

 

Surfer74

too bad it is a drop, I hate to wait

 

Nalisol

Has anyone gotten a chance to test this yet?

 

fnfal

I got one after the recipe dropped in SSC last night.

After a few heroics and random grinding, I'm showing about 1 ppm, 68 hits/proc with a little over an hour of combat time.

It's not amazing, but not horrible. I want to try it on an extended fight in the next few days if possible.

Going to try the +3% crit/12 agi gem for comparison soon as I find somebody exalted with consortium.

 

• Aldriana

When you say "1 PPM", I guess you mean "it procs about once per minute when I'm going all out " and not "it's a 1 PPM enchant that thus goes off about 3 times per minute in practice"? Am I reading you correctly?

 

• Latito

For a rogue, 68 hits per minute would be just auto attack with both weapons on. This is of course a rough guess, but if he had fast daggers (1.8 MH, 1.3 OH).. thats 60/1.3 + 60/1.8 = 79 swings per min. If he had slowish swords (2.7 MH, 1.5 OH).. thats 60/2.7 + 60/1.5 = 62 swings per minute. So yea, 68 is likely just auto attack. 68 hits/proc = ~1.47% chance to proc.

After SnD and spam damage, you'll probably get another 50% more swings. So, whats the uptime for a 6-second duration buff with a ~1.4-1.5% proc chance at 90-120 swings a minute? Twice a minute roughly? So.. 20% of the time you're attacking ~24% faster. 0.24 * 0.6 (assuming 60% white damange, ignore cpots and other procs :S) = 14% damange boost, 20% of the time... so overal maybe a 3% damage bonus. Not too bad.

Remember, the later half of this post is super rough numbers with lots of factors rounded out. 3% damage increase vs 3% dmg increase on just crits and some agi.. I think its a clear winner here, even for dagger rogues, especially for sword/fist/mace rogues. Damn this gem will scale nicely..

 

• Wodin

Feeds the combat potency engine, too, which is most of what makes haste so good.

 

Tiiki

As a non-combat rogue (come on, it's SO BORING), I still feel like haste is very very good.

I'm 41/20 and with so many proc and equip based items, haste still begets haste+dmg in a lot of cases.

Dragonspine, Mongoose, Thundering Skyfire - all the procs cause more procs with the others.

Not to mention things like extra Romulo or WSC procs... (or coup de grace)

Which is another little thing I like about mutilate. Twice as many chances to proc anything from specials, since it's 60 energy for two swings instead of one. My mongoose uptime is, frankly (subjectively), crazy.

 

Rokh

Anyone know if it only drops in Tier 5 Raid Instances? Wowhead and Thottbot still seem clueless as to where the pattern is dropped; if it's just in places like SSC or if it's just a random world drop.

Oh, and has anyone tested it as a hunter? It says it works with ranged, but we all know how that goes.

 

fnfal

1 PPM according to procwatch's counter.

In practice, what I haven't visually observed:

-Never seen back to back procs.
-Procs are always at least 30s apart.
-Has not proc'd off ranged (but I do so little pulling it's not to say it *doesn't* work).

I'm using a 1.8 MH/1.4 OH.

 

ninjabrick

1 PPM is also what I've been getting. I have seen it proc at least twice off of a ranged attack while pulling a mob.

 

Teger

Confirming that it procs on ranged (I'm a hunter after all), and we found it off a Bog Lord in SSC.

 

Sokkou

so, for a rogue, which of the 3 is best

Swift Skyfire http://www.wowhead.com/?item=25894
Relentless Earthstorm http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32409
Thundering Skyfire http://www.wowhead.com/?item=32410

 

• Aldriana

Assuming the proc rate is above once every 2 min or so, Swift Skyfire.

 

Sokkou

right but, isn't Thundering Skyfire:

1PPM?

 

• Aldriana

that's what it's looking like - but I don't think we have enough data to pin it down yet.

The rogue gear spreadsheet models it as 1 PPM, at which point it's about 5 times better than either of the other two.

 

Mallias

My post on WoW forums regarding this:

As some of you know, there has been much speculation about the new haste gem. Someone on my server was lucky enough to get the pattern today, and I jumped on it. I then proceeded to arena for a few hours, to farm up some points, and ran ProcWatch on it, the buff named "Skyfire Swiftness". The buff itself increases haste rating by 240 for 6 seconds.

http://i109.photobucket.com/albums/n...407_010824.jpg

Now, there are three things that must be noted about that procrate. First, it's a PvP environment, and therefore SnD does not have constant uptime, which has a definite effect. Second, ProcWatch double counts it due to the buff fading having a combat log event, resulting in an actual procrate of half what is shown. Third, the statistical sample is far too small to draw any real conclusions - this is just a preliminary test I felt like running.

Now, with the data representing a .8 ppm, once SnD is added, my best guess is about 1.0 ppm in a PvE environment.

Once again, this test has no real meaning, just more of a proof that it does, in fact, proc a reasonable amount.


I just got it today - haven't had a chance to run any real test yet.

 

Sokkou

Dunno, @ 1PPM this seems to blow away the benefit from any of Meta.

 

Xizenta

I've had it for a few days. Doesn't proc a lot, but w/e... as little as it comes its tons more valuable than 24 ap or 3% crit damage, no extensive testing necessary to realize that.

The choice of meta is clear, what is a little strange now is how worthless helmets without meta sockets have become as a result.

Peace@ Malefic Shadows and Cowl of Defiance

 

Siq

Switching from swift skyfire to thundering skyfire means not only losing 24 ap, you'll most likely lose 6 agi on boots (cat's swiftness, yes i need the speedup!) and some dmg out of gems -> 4 blue gems are hard to put in your equip without losing dmg stats, imho

I'm still interested wether it has an internal cooldown o.o

 

songster

There are some new AP/Stam purple gems now which should help with that

 

Cel

4, not 2? I already had 2 blues on my gear for socket bonuses, so it wasn't very difficult to deal with.

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