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05/07/07, 12:21 PM
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Glass Joe
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Paladin Leveling Talent Builds
Anyone know of any post that have like exactly what points you should put in what each level for fastest paladin leveling. Trying to level up as quick as possible, so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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05/07/07, 2:13 PM
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Piston Honda
Blood Elf Paladin
Lightninghoof
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Originally Posted by Lilslashy
Anyone know of any post that have like exactly what points you should put in what each level for fastest paladin leveling. Trying to level up as quick as possible, so any help would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
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Put 1 point in "Minion: Mage", or at least 3 points in "Pity Partner: Mage/Warlock". That's your best bet.
Trust me, you'll thank me when you see how fast you level with your very own little mage cannon.
Otherwise - I go 5 - Benediction, 5 Parry, 1 Soc, 5 - (Holy filler), 5 - Spiritual Focus, 2 - Pursuit of Justice.
From there to be honest I didn't notice much of a difference. I'm not a big fan of the prot grinding - so I have little suggestion to offer there.
Really the best thing you can do is find a mage buddy.
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05/07/07, 2:32 PM
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Bald Bull
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Yeah, just offer to be someone's pocket healer and group level with a severe DPSer. It'll save you days of frustration and tedium.
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05/07/07, 2:37 PM
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I prefer the term treasure hunting
Orc Death Knight
Mal'Ganis
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Put 10 points in holy for the strength and pushback protection and then dive in to either the ret or prot tree. Prot grinding is really only tolerable if you can find stuff to pull in packs of 3 or 4 without dying once you get Reckoning, and doing post-60 AE grinding with consecrate is going to suck horridly after the next patch.
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05/07/07, 2:41 PM
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Disharmonious
Dwarf Paladin
Lightbringer
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Originally Posted by Nite_Moogle
Put 10 points in holy for the strength and pushback protection and then dive in to either the ret or prot tree. Prot grinding is really only tolerable if you can find stuff to pull in packs of 3 or 4 without dying once you get Reckoning, and doing post-60 AE grinding with consecrate is going to suck horridly after the next patch.
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I know they're hitting downranking, but are they aoe capping it?
Personally, I'd do ret to 20 (get your quest weapon if you're alliance, cry softly into your pillow if you're horde), holy to 30 for SF, whatever for 15 levels (probably ret), then do a full respec to Holy/prot 10/x/0 and aoe your way to glory. 45 is about where pally damage starts to suck and never gets better again, really.
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05/07/07, 5:37 PM
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Von Kaiser
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Go ret to about 35, then respec deep prot for reckoning and company and go prot the rest of the way. AE grinding is really the way to go, and you can do it the entire way.
That also puts you in the best spec for soloing difficult quest content if you want to do that.
Prot paladin damage is substantially underrated.
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05/07/07, 6:04 PM
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Soda Popinski
Umph
Tauren Druid
No WoW Account
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Originally Posted by Daler
Yeah, just offer to be someone's pocket healer and group level with a severe DPSer. It'll save you days of frustration and tedium.
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Especially if it's a mage, AoE grinding is wonderful.
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05/07/07, 6:36 PM
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Von Kaiser
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I've been leveling an alt Paladin and Ret to 35 and Prot from on is what I've been told. Currently level 39 and I love/hate Prot. It's really quick to grind with and equal or higher level elites are simple but it's so boring. I don't recommend leveling after a raid because you'll more than like fall asleep while tab targeting and refreshing Seals.
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05/07/07, 6:43 PM
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Bald Bull
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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Seal of command, then reckoning, then reckoning and seal of command, then outlands.
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05/07/07, 7:27 PM
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Yet again, dead again.
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I'm going to be a rebel and go against the common trend.
Skip holy. When you're levelling, unless you're soloing elites (which I care for), you shouldn't need to rely on spiritual focus. Gear choices are basically DPS warrior gear. There's crap for paladin specific gear levelling anyways. Start off favoring STR, be sure not to neglect AGI when you get Vindication.
10-14: Go 3/5 Benediction. Then 2/5 Imp BoM.
15-19: Imp Judgement 2/2 then 5/5 Imp BoM. You should be using SoR and judging JoR every CD at this point. BoW should be your blessing of choice at this point. Retribution Aura.
20-24: SoC, then 4/5 Conviction. Once you get SoC, you can judge more conservatively, and switch to BoM.
25-29: 3/3 Crusade, then 5/5 conviction, 4/5 Benediction. Combat is the same. BoM, SoC, Judge conservatively, best after a stun.
30-34: 1/1 Sanct Aura, then 3/3 2h Weapon Spec, then 5/5 Benediction. Run Sanct Aura once you get it.
35-39: 5/5 Vengeance. Gear choice tends more towards agility, but get whatever you can find that's good.
40-44: 1/1 Repentance, 3/3 Imp Judgement, 1/3 Sanct Crusader.
45-49: 5/5 Fanaticism.
50-54: 1/1 Crusader Strike, 3/3 Sanct Crusader, 2/5 Imp Devo or Redoubt (your choice, you wont be running devo often, nor will you be using a shield)
55-60: 5/5 Redoubt/Devotion, 3/3 Precision.
60+: If you want to start running instances, I would respec to Prot or Holy. Otherwise I'd put the leftover 10 points into Divine Strength and then Spiritual Focus
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05/08/07, 4:02 AM
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Bald Bull
Blood Elf Paladin
Mal'Ganis
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Gear
1-58 Strength, strength, strength. Some will recommend sta/int but really those add little to no efficiency, only pick up as much as you need to feel comfortable. Spirit really isn't a bad stat I'd probably put it just behind str and agi. For a weapon you ideally want a nice slow twohander for seal of command but don't be afraid to go with SoR if you get a quality onehander or fast twohander (note a slow twohander is also arguably the best seal of righteousness weapon). Fiery enchant is HUGE for leveling until you get to the higher levels, from 25-35 its at least a 25% DPS increase. Boots of Avoidance are a level 40 epic plate BoE you can likely pick up for 30-80g, its nice to have boots you'll wear for a while as you can slap a runspeed enchant on.
As soon as you hit 58 head to the outlands and in under 30min you'll have almost a full suit of armour that will make you embarassed about what you arrived in.
Spec
5 Benediction
2 Improved Judgement
3 Deflection
1 Seal of Command (only use this with a 3.5+ speed weapon)
4 Conviction
2 Improved Retribution Aura
1 Conviction
2 Pursuit of Justice
3 Two-Handed Weapon Specialization
LEVEL 33 RESPEC
5 Redoubt
3 Precision
2 Guardian's Favour
3 Improved Righteous Fury
4 Toughness
3 Improved Hammer of Justice
5 Reckoning
5 Benediction
2 Improved Judgement
3 Deflection
1 Seal of Command
4 Conviction
2 Improved Retribution aura
1 Conviction
2 Crusade
3 Two Handed Weapon Specialization
LEVEL 58 OUTLANDS
Really any spec is viable now, you finally get enough gear to make crusader strike and seal of righteousness work. Reckoning remains one of the best soloing talents. A 21+*/31+*/0 Paladin is easier to get into an instance group than any other class/spec in the game.
Playstyle
Retribution aura should be up 95% of the time. Don't put up conc aura to heal, just use a blessing of protection or divine shield and then bandage, they're short cooldowns, use them. In fact you should almost never have to cast a heal in combat and only rarely out of combat. You'll notice I skip sanctity aura, it really doesn't measure up to ret aura until you get good gear.
Don't bother with judgement of light and wisdom, except perhaps if soloing an elite. Judgement of the crusader has occasional uses if you're fighting higher level mobs and using SoR, otherwise its far too much mana for a short fight. Judging Righteousness and Command depends on your mana, riding out a seal and getting some spirit regen is often the right call. Only if engaging a large pull or casters will I open with a judgement and use it again on cooldown. Hammer of justice should be used on cooldown and of course pair a judgement of command with it.
Generally you want to use blessing of wisdom but if you find your mana is doing fine (fighting mana users as a bloodelf for example), switch to blessing of might. Make sure you keep up Righteous Fury for the -6% damage from level 33 on.
Rank 1 Seal of Command is a powerful tool that will let you put out almost maximum damage at very little mana cost, allowing you to use Blessing of Might or just spirit regen up a bar of mana.
AE grinding can be fun but the fastest experience is usually to follow a quest guide. Yes I'm telling you to use a twohander with protection spec, its a common misconception that reckoning isn't as good with slow weapons. In fact the only bad speed with reckoning is something faster than 2.0.
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05/10/07, 1:39 AM
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Banned
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I leveled with the old school talents to 60
60-65 I was holy and did a lot of aoeing for pretty much every quest I completed, around 65 mobs started killing me when I tried to kill them 6 at a time so I just went ret the rest of the way to 70
now that I have decent 70 gear though, aoeing seems pretty viable again
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