The % distributions are pretty much spot on 38/19/19/11/10 - so it looks like you're being consistent w/ your dot application.

The only thing I'd work on would be your overall hit rate - with your sbolts "missing" at 7.4% - despite that they're 38% of your damage.

A definite improvement from the previous parse though - good job

One thing I would comment on is the use of the moonkin in your group. Affliction warlocks are basically the caster class that derives the *least* benefit from the 5% crit aura, so that might be worth looking at if you're trying to min/max. That being said, it really looks like the next step would be getting your mages to improve their performance. 384 and 410 DPS is pretty low.

I've been on a search for the ultimate lock spec myself. As I used to do on my rogue. Using input from warlock friends, spreadsheets, theorycrafting. My job as a caster is to maximize DPS while providing whatever utility I can.

What I've found is that my theory for a warlock to do well is to do as much damage as possible, is slightly skewed. I've played the rogue class for far too long and I've quickly found out it's not about single player DPS with casters as it is with rogues.

I'm still not convinced 41 demo is the "ultimate" spec, mind you it can be really good. I actually did more dps over the felguard with 0/40/21 having ruin and using a succubus for pet damage. It even shows this in L's spreadsheet(didn't want to butcher his name). In fact I'm just not convinced any one spec is ultimate over another. Read on.

I believe the best warlock spec for any one guild is one that is synergistic with the other warlocks, a team spec. Every fight is different, too many affliction locks overload debuff limits, etc.. I find having 1 shadow destro lock, 2 affliction locks for malediction, and 1 or 2 demo locks provide far greater utility AND damage.

I've tried 42/0/18, 0/41/20, 0/40/21 (using succubus), and 0/21/40. I seem to be decent at all of those specs. I placed in the top 5 dps 99% of the fights I dont screw up and die. You know what though, our guild has 3/4 affliction locks, 2 demo locks and ZERO shadowdestro locks. Because I did well with each spec, I decided to go shadowdestro and stay destro because having at least 1 person spamming s.bolts is just better overall for everyone.

I just so happen to have good enough stats for isb uptime. So /cheers. The added bonus of critting 7500+ sometimes pleases the rogue aspect in me so. Im happy, and I believe my guild is happy with me.

*Small Hint for all the warlocks out there*
I also switch gear out for trash mobs and certain boss fights depending on how much +hit is needed, ie lvl 71/72/73 mobs, which helps dps considerably on certain encounters. Hope this helps the "howto: doing more damage" cause.

While I support the idea of 2 aff 1 shadow destro as a base since they all do similar damage but that combo buffs eachother and the raid the best with malediction and imp shadowbolt, it only stands true if the destro warlock actually has gear that makes shadow destro at least equal to affliction and appropriate crit rate. After all if you spam shadowbolt without a major crit advantage over the affliction warlocks, your contribution to the imp SB time goes to near-0 if shadow priests don't eat up your imp SB (and they shouldn't, although if they do then I agree every shadowbolt casts contributes to the imp sb uptime).

Hey Sparq :x

Not sure why you say its really bad on Lurker. As long as you know how to use the available pet commands to your advantage, you can keep your pet out of every whirlwind, and your pet will probably have more in-time than the melee in the raid. He'd just need a heal or two after each spout (shamans are usually chain healing the melee anyway). Or you can sac your succubus and just go to town w/ that method. Our demo warlock does great on this fight.

From my experience felguard got singleshotted from first spout. He just fell down, didn't even see health go down a bit first, but killed straight away.

Whirlwind is not the problem, that's easily healed by shadow priest.

Also if you read the whole post, I said there when I said not usable i ment felguard:

I did sacrificed succubus as well there when my felguard died (posted in first post about demonology testing) and still managed to do very nice damage.

I tried dissmisspet as well which resulted my felguard being stuck on platform where my spot is in the fight and swimming and waiting when felguard teleports next to lurker, isn't an option.

Felguard is not just working there, you can have imp or succubus or whatever you think is best for the raid.

This is why I would say felguard is not working in that fight at all.

edit: But after reading I do agree my choice of words there isn't the best if you just look the list, I will edit them to reflect more what I originally meant.

(Off topic sorry)
lol hi

Why you mean to me =( /frown

Tell Azule I'm terribly sorry again, poor guy felt the wrath meant for a different but oddly similiar female DR shadowpriest. Wrong place wrong time =X

(Back on topic)
Most warlocks are probably better off choosing a playstyle that fits them the best. Whether it's micromanaging dots, coordinating with your pets, or nuking.

After reading Nyarlas posts, i specced Demo last night.

BT Trash, Teron and Magtheridon, I went from nr 2/3 lock dps over time to number 1, beaten only by a BM Hunter on trash and our best geared rogue on the boss fight.


I began TBC as Afflic, then got tired of dots being bumped. I then went Destro and had insane fun. Went Demo to try it out, and very positive so far..however keeping the beasty alive without any T5 or the trinket is gonna be hard on boss fights.

The challenge of micro management is something that attracted me.

My stats with pet out at 1340 spell damage, 35% crit, hit capped. It is extrememly nice to not have to worry about my threat like I did with Destro.

Thanks Nya again

Anyone familiar with the exalted Ashtongue trinket, Ashtongue Talisman of Shadows? I'm currently specced 0/21/40, so corruption takes me 2 seconds to cast. According to the spreadsheet, from somewhere on this forum, corruption alone, if used perfectly, should add around 10dps. I haven't checked that out myself, but a guildie told me so. I'm not entirely convinced its worth swapping out Neltharion's Tear for the talisman of shadows.

Anyone bored enough to do some maths on this? I might visit Dr.Boom later today, but if someone knows its worth/not worth using this trinket as a destruction build, it'll save me a good hour testing it myself.

If you're casting corruption as 0/21/40 then you'll have less imp shadow bolt time, no math needed.

I'd rather sacrifice 10 dps for more imp procs myself, considering it boosts all shadow dmg the raid does not just your own DPS.

Nyar, got a concise list of /commands and macros I can use? I'm going to give this a whirl tonight.