Karmy

I finally have a nice set of DPS weapons for my fury warrior and have been debating on what enchant to have cast on them, I have a Spiteblade and Malchazeen. But I need some advice from the pros so I came here to ask for it.

I see 3 basic choices:

Potency (20 str)
Mongoose
Battlemaster

Battlemaster seems nice for raiding on bosses with AE effects but the extra aggro from the heals and the lack of added dps from procs like crusader use to have seems to make this a weak choice.

Mongoose only adds Crit/Dodge for warriors. Proc rate does not seem super to me.

Potency is what I am leaning toward atm, 40str = 80 AP all the time, no waiting for procs and a constant increase in DPS. Also much cheaper.

Or perhaps a combo of 2 of these.

Any helpful hints or advice would be great.

 

Punscho

Why don't you compare those in the DPS warrior sheet? Woah!

DPS Warrior Spreadsheet

 

Tasan

Potency is what I am leaning to as well.

For MH I would still consider Crusader over Mongoose since you are on +hit cap, but on OH I would go +20 str.

 

Igelchen

dual Mongoose > all

dual mongoose increase the crit value on bossfights by ~5% (swstats value). Thats very fine

 

Randor

Mongoose on MH, Potency on OH.

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dr_AllCOM3

What he said.

 

• ikillyouheal

What the man above said. Getting out an average of 55agi from my MH Mongoose, would only get out 24agi if I had it on my offhand.

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Beatrice

I aggree w/ the Mongoose/potency for DW.

I'd like to know what the verdict is for a 2h setup, though? Would y'all run Mongoose or Savagery?

 

Punscho

I'd say 2h is more dependant on crit to keep flurry active so my bet would be mongoose.

 

Randor

I'd go with Savagery on a 2hander. Extra attack power on every hit.

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• Apate

I'll second the spreadsheet. If you disagree with its findings, perhaps that could be resolved. I suspect that for most gear set-ups, mongoose will come out ahead, but I am like you and haven't plugged it into the sheet.

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◊ Kaubel

This is a fairly narrow topic, but whatever.

 

svagftw

What?

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Ren

Last time I checked the spreadsheet Potency > Mongoose for both hands.

 

Tasan

Svag, you have a problem that I prefer crusader over mongoose on the main hand?

That I prefer an AP proc than a crit proc?

 

svagftw

I don't give a shit what you prefer on your main hand, this is what I was referring to:
And I agree with the poster who said that this topic is kind of narrow, and that it has been posted before.

[Warrior] DPS Enchants

Oh and Tasan

From that thread. Go figure.

 

Randor

Crusader has diminishing returns past 60. You're better off getting Potency then and not worrying about any procs.

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Voxx

I find it rather hard to believe that 80 ap all the time is better than 2% haste and 3.6% (ish) crit on a proc. I dual wield mongoose and it procs all the time, I haven't run any procwatch addon on it yet, but I suppose the high proc chance could come from all the haste effects I generally have going. Also, mongoose can stack, and does stack quite often for me, 7.2% crit and 4% haste really isn't anything to laugh at. Not to mention that % bonuses like crit and haste scale with your damage, while attack power is a static dps increase.

 

IceBox

Yeah, if it's up the whole time 240 agility and 4% would be fat but as far as I tested I came up with a ~50% uptime on the main hand which results in about 55 to 60 agility as stated above and ~1% haste over a longer time span.

I tried to compare MG/PO against MG/MG and there wasn't a big difference between the two, dual mongoose won twice and MG/PO won twice.
I'll post the stats if I find them again :>

Testing mob was Gruul btw. which sucks a bit for DPS tests because of TEH SHATTER!

 

Hiyono

Do not forget that Potency is affected by Kings, where Mongoose and Crusader is not.

 

Schneeb

Our chief dps meatwagon is using talon MH and alar axe OH - both slow weapons. Hes using dual mongoose which seem to proc quite often due to the slow weaps, when both are up he said hes got around 50% crit which would lead me to believe its probably the best you can get :p

 

Cel

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Machinator

Does Kings not affect procs for some reason? What about talents that increase str/agi/ap by a certain %, would they affect the procs?

Also the DPS warrior spreadsheet have dual potency as the best combo for me anyway.

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suicuique

"Improved Berserker Stance" talent does affect procs (crusader). At least it did back then when it was introduced.
I'm not sure about kings though.

That seems strange. At least for the MH I'd certainly prefer Mongoose over Potency.

 

Salted

So if Mongoose is effectively up half the time (numbers?), then Crusader would be up half the time. @lvl70 its 60str, and in half thats 30str, which is still more than potency at 20str.

Has anyone plugged this into the dps sheet? I can't figure that damn thing out.