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Old 05/23/07, 1:02 PM   #1
Azgul
Glass Joe
 
Human Paladin
 
Hyjal
Tanking Consumables in 2.1

What're you guys (tanks) planning on using for your Guardian/Battle slots? I'm sure it'll vary from boss to boss but in general...

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Old 05/23/07, 1:04 PM   #2
Suesse
Don Flamenco
 
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Human Death Knight
 
Llane
In general when I think we'll wipe a lot? Probably a flask.

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Old 05/23/07, 1:10 PM   #3
Feorthas
King Hippo
 
Blood Elf Death Knight
 
Blackrock
Major Agility + Major Fortitude/Defense.

Now, food buffs make things slightly more interesting; if I think I REALLY need more hitpoints, I can grab some +Sta food. Need more threat? Str Food. More mitigation period? Agi food. etc.

The options that stat foods provide also opens up that Guardian elixir slot a little; normally, I really wouldn't consider Major Defense (550 armor) over Fortitude but if I got the same amount of stamina from food that Fortitude would give, maybe I WOULD spring for the additional armor.

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Old 05/23/07, 1:18 PM   #4
Lord BEEF
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Tauren Druid
 
Mal'Ganis
Armor scrolls (+300 armor) still stack with flasks or your 2 elixirs so I'd remember to keep those if you get those as drops.

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Old 05/23/07, 1:19 PM   #5
Punscho
Piston Honda
 
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Gnome Rogue
 
Ravencrest (EU)
Farm content just food I guess, for progress a flask is by far the cheapest and the best.

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Old 05/23/07, 1:21 PM   #6
Suesse
Don Flamenco
 
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Human Death Knight
 
Llane
It's certainly a lot closer for bears since they get so much out of agility and stamina (and mastery/agility are battle elixirs).

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Old 05/23/07, 1:35 PM   #7
stampy
Piston Honda
 
Orc Death Knight
 
<GLA>
Executus
The patch notes mention that stamina buffs from food and rum wont stack. I forgot to test last night if rum will stack with other food buffs... anyone know if rum will still stack with agi or str food?

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Old 05/23/07, 1:42 PM   #8
whitekong
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Warrior
 
Lightning's Blade
I didn't think to check last night, but if I remember correctly from the PTR, the Elixir of Major Fortitude is a guardian and the Elixir of Mastery is battle.

that's 422.5ish HP for just a few gold, for those fights where it will help but you wont need the extra 1.9 hours of 500 HP and 10 def rating.

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Old 05/23/07, 1:53 PM   #9
Dryi
Glass Joe
 
Tauren Druid
 
Kel'Thuzad
When doing High King and Gruul last night, I used Major Agility/Major Fortitude with +STAM food...seems to be what I'll probably stick with for most fights, as it seems to balance everything pretty well.

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Old 05/24/07, 4:47 AM   #10
suicuique
King Hippo
 
Night Elf Warrior
 
Antonidas (EU)
On progression nights I will use the flask + STA food.

On farm nights, when I expect my elixirs to last longer, I will use major fortitude (+250HP - guardian elixir) and major agility (20 crit, 35 agi - battle elixir) and eventually some food.

IMHO the AC gear buffs made the defense elixir lose some of its appeal. It's still juicy but +250 HP of major fortitude is slightly better even on heavy physical bosses.
Elixir of mastery isn't worth it anymore. It was bareyl worth it when you could stack all possible effects (because it was ridiculously overpriced) ... but I certainly will not sacrifice an elixir slot for that one.

Thanks for the tip with the AC scrolls though.

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Old 05/24/07, 4:54 AM   #11
drats
Don Flamenco
 
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Tauren Shaman
 
Kel'Thuzad
Str and Agi scrolls definitely stack with elixirs with +str or +agi on them. I haven't gotten a Stam scroll lately, but I'll test it out when I do. Tanks might want to throw scrolls on anyways, an extra 10 or 20 Str or Agi never hurt anyone.

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Old 05/24/07, 5:26 AM   #12
Daboran
King Hippo
 
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Tauren Druid
 
Twisting Nether (EU)
Confirmed that Rum doesn't stack with food - you consumes the Rum but doesn't give you the buff. Sort of like trying to get drunk on the beer stateside

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Old 05/24/07, 5:33 AM   #13
songster
Chief Passenger
 
Gnome Rogue
 
Earthen Ring (EU)
Originally Posted by Daboran View Post
Confirmed that Rum doesn't stack with food - you consumes the Rum but doesn't give you the buff. Sort of like trying to get drunk on the beer stateside
Is that all food or just stam food? If you use Agi food, will you still get stam from the rum?

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Old 05/24/07, 5:49 AM   #14
dukes
Bald Bull
 
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Dukes
Tauren Druid
 
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I'm using Major Agi and Major Fortitude for anything we're likely to one-shot or for some learning attempts, and Flask of Fortitude for other learning attempts (got a mark of the illidari yesterday, which is a free flask - might as well use it for something! :p )

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Old 05/24/07, 10:18 AM   #15
stampy
Piston Honda
 
Orc Death Knight
 
<GLA>
Executus
Checked it last night, turns out you cannot stack rum with ANY food buff

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