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07/26/07, 3:18 AM
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#151
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mumbo-jumbo-theorycrafter
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Originally Posted by Smoker
Spellcrit is good if you are healing the tanks, since Ancestral Healing(25% more armor on the healing critted target) procs on crits.
And I'd say the Merciless and cyclone hauberk are on pair with each other, excluding the T4 set bonuses.
If you can get another T4 part Id definately go for the Cyclone Hauberk since that 2set T4 bonus gives around 35 MP5.
3 more mana per 2 sec for everyone in the group
That gives everyone roundish 7 extra mp5, 7x5=35 mp/5
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Stacking spellcrit is useless as a healer unless you have some sort of on-crit ability.
It's not reliable, and unless you have something like the paladin mana-back talent, not all that useful.
Personally, I'd take the hauberk over merciless because of the better mana regen (both item and the 2 mana per tick set bonus), and the fact that the hauberk has BRY sockets rather than RYY (yellow sucks for healing). As for Earthblood/Merciless, it's a toss up really.
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07/26/07, 8:14 AM
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#152
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Bald Bull
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Originally Posted by Doran Blackdawn
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You should get the Merciless Ringmail armor for PVP/arena and then keep Cyclone Hauberk for PVE.
Spell crit is good for PVP for ancestral healing as well as the extra healing boost. Not only that but the extra armor, resilience, and stamina. Toss in three solid stars of Elune in the PVP piece, and put in PVE healing gems into the Cyclone Hauberk. A resilience enchant for the Merciless piece, and a 6/mp5 or a +6 to all stats to the Hauberk would be the best option.
I would only use the Ringmail armor for PVE if you cannot get t4 or earthblood. As soon as you get t4 or earthblood, use that instead.
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07/26/07, 8:19 AM
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#153
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Bald Bull
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Originally Posted by Binkenstein
RYY (yellow sucks for healing). As for Earthblood/Merciless, it's a toss up really.
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Yellow don't suck for healing. You can get the +int and +mp5 gems, or the +healing/+int. Yeah I would rather have blue/red slots for royal nightseye or royal shadowsong amethyst, but the yellow gems don't suck.
Look at gurgthock's gems:
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal'Ganis&n=Gurgthock
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07/26/07, 5:23 PM
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#154
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mumbo-jumbo-theorycrafter
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Originally Posted by Teewee
Yellow don't suck for healing. You can get the +int and +mp5 gems, or the +healing/+int. Yeah I would rather have blue/red slots for royal nightseye or royal shadowsong amethyst, but the yellow gems don't suck.
Look at gurgthock's gems:
http://armory.worldofwarcraft.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Mal'Ganis&n=Gurgthock
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9heal/2mp5 > 4int/2mp5 or 9heal/4int imo (which is why I said "suck")
If you look at his sockets, the only time he uses yellow gems is for yellow sockets, and there is the 2 yellows required for his meta. The belt/chest socket bonuses are such that using non-yellow gems will not get you better stats.
Belt: 7 heal bonus.
2x Royal Nightseye = 18 heal, 4 mp5. (11 heal 4 mp5)
2x Dazzling Talasite = 7 heal, 8 int, 4 mp5 (8 int 4 mp5)
2x Luminous Noble Topaz = 25 heal, 8 int (18 heal, 8 int)
So there isn't really much in it, I prefer more mp5 at the moment, and I need the 2 yellows for my meta.
Looking at the T5 chest, it's 9 heal, 4 int, 2 mp5 v 9 heal 2 mp5. Easy choice.
T4 chest though, the bonus is 4 int, so 9 heal 2 mp5 v 8 int 2 mp5 (if I don't need the extra yellows) means I'll probably stack R/B on my T4 chest (when I finally get it).
Generally, if it's a blue/red socket, Royal Nightseye is the way to go. If its yellow, it's a call between another royal nightseye or the socket bonus.
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07/26/07, 9:30 PM
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#155
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Piston Honda
Tauren Shaman
Burning Blade
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I never understood why Earthpeace Breastplate ( Earthpeace Breastplate - Items - World of Warcraft) didn't enter the debate more often. It's ridiculously good and ridiculously easy to make. Now granted, if you did have Merciless Gladiator or T5 or whatever, I'd say yeah, just use that, but otherwise if you have access to easy blues like that, let someone else who has more of a pressing desire for it grab T4 chest/Earthblood (paladins?).
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07/27/07, 3:51 AM
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#156
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Druid
Wildhammer (EU)
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Excellent regen, that's true. But it has no stats whatsoever - I prefer the [Void Slayer's Tunic] over that one, since there are so many AE's, even in 5-mans.
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07/27/07, 4:18 AM
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#157
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Glass Joe
Draenei Priest
Stonemaul (EU)
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Hello all!  New member ^^
Is there any confirmation that Pendant of the Violet Eye procs several time during Chain Heal?
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07/27/07, 4:25 AM
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#158
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Welp.
Prel
Blood Elf Priest
No WoW Account
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Originally Posted by snegoviK
Hello all!  New member ^^
Is there any confirmation that Pendant of the Violet Eye procs several time during Chain Heal?
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It will add one to the enlightenment stack for each chain heal you cast. If someone told you each jump added one to the stack, they were incorrect.
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07/27/07, 4:27 AM
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#159
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Glass Joe
Draenei Priest
Stonemaul (EU)
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Yea, I had to know better than to trust a single post on wowhead. :/ Thanks a lot.
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07/27/07, 11:23 AM
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#160
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Piston Honda
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Originally Posted by GamingManiac
I never understood why Earthpeace Breastplate ( Earthpeace Breastplate - Items - World of Warcraft) didn't enter the debate more often. It's ridiculously good and ridiculously easy to make. Now granted, if you did have Merciless Gladiator or T5 or whatever, I'd say yeah, just use that, but otherwise if you have access to easy blues like that, let someone else who has more of a pressing desire for it grab T4 chest/Earthblood (paladins?).
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The lack of Stam/Int stats make it far, far worse than T4/Earthblood. Chest is one of those slots where there is typically a lot of Stam/Int loaded onto the gear (you're losing 40 stam and 40 int versus Earthblood), so it isn't the best piece to make the sacrifice on. I'd far prefer someone in one of the two excellent rare healing chests (Void Slayer/Deep Currents) than Earthpeace. We're the durable healers after all.
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07/27/07, 1:27 PM
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#161
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The All-Seeing Eye
Draenei Shaman
Black Dragonflight
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This question is for the shamans currently in Hyjal/Black Temple. How did your healing style change once you started working on late endgame? In particular, with Lesser Healing Wave?
My current style of healing generally involves using downranked/maxranked Healing Wave on tanks, using Chain Heal primarily for raid healing, and using LHW to top people off when they are either going to die really fast or a Chain Heal wouldn't bounce. We are working on Kael'thas and I am quite satisfied with my performance and efficiency.
However, I've been talking to some of the shamans in the top-tier guild on my server (they are working on Illidan) and they are telling me they use Lesser Healing Wave more than any other spell, even on tanks. The rationale is that everything else is 'too slow.' I hear echoes of this sentiment on other boards as well. This flies in the face of what I would consider good healing practice, but having never seen any of this content for myself, I am very curious.
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07/27/07, 2:09 PM
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#162
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Bald Bull
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It really just depends on the fight. If you've done it a few times and are aware of the kind of damage people take, you can relax a little more and adapt what you do on a fight-by-fight basis.
On learning attempts, and things that aren't really on farm status, it makes sense to use LHW more then HW, since things can happen and shit can go bad fast. Spamming LHW is going to keep a more steady stream of heals on the tank, which makes it nice against any spikes of damage. If it's a group of people taking damage, most of the time its better to use chain heal over LHW.
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07/27/07, 4:43 PM
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#163
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by Murderbot
This question is for the shamans currently in Hyjal/Black Temple. How did your healing style change once you started working on late endgame? In particular, with Lesser Healing Wave?
My current style of healing generally involves using downranked/maxranked Healing Wave on tanks, using Chain Heal primarily for raid healing, and using LHW to top people off when they are either going to die really fast or a Chain Heal wouldn't bounce. We are working on Kael'thas and I am quite satisfied with my performance and efficiency.
However, I've been talking to some of the shamans in the top-tier guild on my server (they are working on Illidan) and they are telling me they use Lesser Healing Wave more than any other spell, even on tanks. The rationale is that everything else is 'too slow.' I hear echoes of this sentiment on other boards as well. This flies in the face of what I would consider good healing practice, but having never seen any of this content for myself, I am very curious.
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Traditionally LHW has always been the cornerstone of any successfull raiding resto shaman.
In vanilla wow, chain heal was sort of a "meh" heal, id rarely use it, and healing wave was almost never used.
However, i find myself using all three heals evenly now.
Like TeeWee said in the above, it really depends on the fight. If there isn't too much raid damage going out, its safe to say that a smart shaman will be casting LHW and HW whenever their set bonus triggers.
However, in opposite conditions - fights such as RoS and Gorefiend require resto shamans to almost exclusively cast Chain heal, and maybe dump a HW on the MT if things get rough.
So I guess what im trying to get it is LHW is still our "main heal" with Chain Heal and HW being the odd heal that you toss out situationally.
Healing Wave is "too slow" generally speaking. In a raid environment with Paladins sniping heals these days, its very hard to get max efficiency out of a Healing Wave, so i say stick with Lesser Healing Wave, and make that time spent casting actually count 
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07/28/07, 10:42 AM
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#164
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Bald Bull
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Originally Posted by Karnage420
So I guess what im trying to get it is LHW is still our "main heal" with Chain Heal and HW being the odd heal that you toss out situationally.
Healing Wave is "too slow" generally speaking. In a raid environment with Paladins sniping heals these days, its very hard to get max efficiency out of a Healing Wave, so i say stick with Lesser Healing Wave, and make that time spent casting actually count 
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I would say chain heal is our main heal. On most fights people are taking lots of damage, so most of the time we should be casting chain heal. You only really want LHW if someone needs healing RIGHT NOW, which really only happens during certain fights, or if someone is out of range or doesn't get healed. The latter generally doesn't happen that often. If you check out our WWS from recent run through things:
First batch of BT bosses for Gurg, Kemosabe, and Ghando:
Gurgthock - WWS
Kemosabe - WWS
Ghando - WWS
Heres our last Hyjal clear for Gurg, Ghando, and myself
Gurgthock - WWS
Teewee - WWS
Ghando - WWS
We all have relatively high overheal, between 40 and 50%, but we are generally top 3-4 healers. We all use a different range of heals, but most of the time, chain heal is the one we use most often.
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07/28/07, 11:50 AM
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#165
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Bald Bull
Worgen Death Knight
The Maelstrom (EU)
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It all depends on what fight, indeed. I find myself casting LHW quite a lot though. From the top of my mind, I know I cast LHW during Supremus p2 and e.g. on Solarian when someone gets targetted with AM and is on low HP.
Other then that, Chain Heal all the way. There's not a lot of fights where I'd prefer to spam LHW, unless I'm really fed with mana.
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