I was spending some time in Warsong and noticed that my Cheapshots were getting resisted a bit too often (specifically against shadow priests).

So I decided to do a small test with a shadowpriest friend. Pretty much I just Cheap-Shotted my friend and recorded the results (Resist or not resist). This was tested with Kidney Shot afterwards. The shadowpriest had ~25% resist chance.


I did 25 Cheapshots, and all 25 were resisted. Out of 25 Kidney Shots, 19 were resisted.
I know this is not a significant amount to be stastically correct, but I will do more tests later on.

Now, according to probability formulas, the chance of him resisting all 25 Cheapshots is around


(0.25^25) * 100 = 8.8 x10^-14% Chance to get 25 resists in a row. (This is about as likely as winning the lottery twice in a row).

I know these 25 Stuns arn't stastically enough, but the chance to resist all 25 is still unbelievably small...

Anybody got any opinions on what's going on?

This is really strange that you have posted this. I did some arena matches yesterday and had several stun resists against multiple classes. I just thought it was the 18sta/5% stun resist meta gem that got lucky. The resist rate wasn't as high as yours, but I didn't test it out.


Maybe its just us. /tinfoil hat


Edit: People tend to be very suspicious of stuff like this. Can you post some screenshots later?

Hi, i was just searching if there was a post like that on this forum.

I also have a LOT of resist on cheap shots and kidney shots, way more than it should be in my opinion.

Last week arena games, a war resisted 2*cs 6*ks in a row, shadowpriest were resisting around 30-60% on every match last week oO, cs resist, ks hit, cs resist, ks resist, ks resist is a common example.

perhaps i'm extremly unlucky, perhaps there's a bug like the metagem giving 25% or more, i don't know at all.

i'll record combatlog for this week because i feel there's something strange.

This and this coupled with this or this, might be the problem :P

Will do the same, trying to do around 100 Cheapshots + Kidneyshots to test out the percentage resist. Curious as to see what will happen.

Anecdotally I can also confirm that I'm getting resisted a lot.

orcs can't be priests. And even if they were, that still hardly explain 25 resists in a row, which is statistically speaking impossible.

Mental effect is there, sure, but at such a high number, well...

Unbreakable Will: 15%
Powerful Earthstorm Diamond: 5%
I'm not totally certain if these effects are multiplicative (80.75% chance to be stunned) or additive (80%) - but I can almost guarantee any shadowpriest you see pvp'ing will have both of these. Also lets not forget how amazing Blizzard's RNG can be with small samples.

Guys, I have also noticed this lately...

Ever since I got the 5% stun resist meta for my helmet, I have had more cheapshots resisted than can possibly be explained!

Literally half of my stuns are resisted these days in arenas. Maybe there is a bug that adds our resistance to the targets for a stun. Wouldnt be the first time blizzard did something like this...

Remember when combat potency used to proc for you off of enemy offhand attacks?
OR Riposte becoming available when the enemy parried?

This is absolutely anecdotal evidence, but I've noticed a whole lot more stun resists as well. On the other hand, I've noticed an overall increase in spell resistance. I recorded myself resisting 10% of snares and 10% of direct damage spells over the course of about 10 hours of bg'ing. I have 0% resistance to either (no gems, no spell resistance). That being said, it's entirely possible that this was caused by lag around the corners of CLOS, vanish, or improved sprint (I was just looking at the raw numbers). Still, I'm curious if something has changed in the background.

Crackpot idea: Bliz's alteration of the silence resist formula accidentally effected stuns--which don't have partial resists--resulting in an accidental boost to stun resistance from anti-silence talents/items.

Awww, there goes my dream of being an orc priest On a serious note, the orc part was ofcourse meant for warriors :P

Well, I tested the cheapshots now 100 hundred times and came to this abnormally odd conslusion:

62 Resists
4 Misses
34 Hits

Still a crazy amount resisted, the priest I tested this on was a nightelf priest.

4 *misses*?
What was your gear/talents, what those of the priest?

I'm 30/0/31 daggers, and the priest is 11/2/48. I have 7.36% chance to hit. Chance to hit doesn't effect the resist chance does it?

No it doesn't, at least it shouldn't.
Also I'm totally confused by those 4 misses (which represent 4%).
Are you absolutely sure that these were misses and not dodges or parries? Laying aside that you attack while bein stealthed and this attack shouldn't be able to be dodged/parried.

With 7.36% toHit you shouldn't have missed him and I couldn't find any hit affecting talents in the priest tree either.

Seems Blizzards has some serious issues here.
Does anyone of you both have the 5% stun resist meta gem?
Did you perform further tests with kidney shot?

I'm not sure if he has the meta gem, I'll ask once he's online again, I surely don't have the gem. No I havn't performed any tests with kidney shot yet, but planning on doing so soon.


It seems other people are noticing an increase in stun resists also, would be interesting if somebody else did the same test on a priest (fully selfbuffed in shadowform) with around the same stun-resist chance, to see if we get the same numbers.

I would like to see some combat log "evidence", something that would take more than 5 seconds to fabricate a result anyways.

However, assuming that these results are accurate, it looks like the gem could be giving 50% stun resist instead of 5%?

This is going to need wider testing however, I haven't noticed significantly higher resists from mob attacks since I started wearing the stun-resist gem. Could this be adversely affecting player stuns only, with the intended 5% affecting mobs?