Agreed. Everyone can heal people. Spamming Regrowth is like direct-healing with a gimmick that it can be swiftmended later, but for Regrowth's HoT capabilities, it's about half a rejuv and roughly 1/4 of a lifebloom stack. It's not nothing, but it's nothing to write home about.

However, Resto Druids can provide one thing that no one else can, amazing amounts of effective healing and tank health insurance, and it's the most mana-efficient way we can heal. So why besides boredom should we be using HT or Regrowth spam? It's like trying to shove a square peg into a round hole. There's better people than us to direct heal people, and we're better than the other healing classes at what we do. There's nothing stopping you, but it's far from our best use.

Perhaps if rolling Lifeblooms was a more interesting way to heal, people wouldn't be trying so hard to justify other ways of healing.

My issue with switching off a fairly direct tank rotation is that I feel my hots are so useless with chain heals topping off the raid a few seconds later. In a few really damage intense encounters (IE Najentus) with really unpredictable damage, I found this useful, but on something like Anetheron where I can only heal the tank, melee, and other healers, I really can't do much more then re-apply my lifebloom every 6 seconds.

On the topic of itemization, I'm curious on what stats druids choose to stack. Personally I'm unable to download the spreadsheet but I'm fairly certain the priority is something like healing>spirit/mp5>useless stats like stam/int. What I concluded was best for my stat prioritization before reaching t6 instances was basically to stack healing and as much spirit as possible. I used the 9 heal/4 spir gems in nearly every socket (18 heals on certain set bonuses) and got upwards of 700 spirit raid buffed before we first downed Kael. I really like the spirit route because coupled with the other resto druid in our guild, we add about 400 healing to the MT. Considering a direct healing vs spirit comparison of what gives more healing, 1 point of healing will give more then 1 point of spirit unless there are at least 4 healers on the main tank, and spirit is substantially less impressive in multi-tank fights where some tanks arn't even in your group. Currently I just stack spirit and healing, but especially with the addition of Hyjal gems that have no 9heal/4spirit meaning I'm just going to be taking 22 heals except for socketing, the possibility of ignoring spirit as a stat on items does occur.

My general feeling is that the mp5 and healing benefit of Spirit outways the possibility of gaining slightly more healing if I were to change the gear I aim to pick up. The only non-spirit items I currently have are my trinkets, and top the healing meters as much as I would expect from a druid. Unfortunately spirit itemization is fairly shitty, under what I described, my best boots are off Karathress, and almost my entire non-tier ideal gear is cloth as well. This isn't an issue of concern for me, but it surprises me that I've seen so little concern about not only that cloth is generally ideal under this stat prioritization, but that the ideal weapon to use is Illidan's mace with Archimonde's off-hand purely because they have more healing, the stats are completely useless other then the spirit on Arch's o-hand, and the mace is definitely more useful to basically every other healing class.

This must mean either my stat prioritization is wrong, or everyone else is incorrectly prioritizing gear. Taking the more likely route, what stat would you stack other then healing? Any stat at all? Why is that stat better then spirit?

Think we already figured out that mp5 > spirit for socketing. Also, buffing your aura is nice, but in the end you'll get a fair amount of spirit anyway, even if you don't focus on it at all. Therefore, instead of saying "my aura gives 200 +healing" it would be better to say "my aura gives 50 +healing more".

But "prioritizing" stats is of course a bit vague. I mean, you can say you prioritize healing over spirit, but where do you draw the line? There should be some X +heal = Y spirit = Z mp5 equation, but even that can't always be correct as the more +healing you get, the less of an upgrade 1 +healing will be. Not to mention that at several encounters mana isn't an issue at all so then basically mp5 / spirit priority should be extremely low, while on others it's harder to keep your mana and the priority of those stats should be higher. Same goes for stamina actually.

The worth of Spirit really depends on if you also get an Innervate yourself, however if your guild really does use Trees in tank groups and you work for the overall healing benefit of Spi in terms of bonus healing for more than yourself... then well theres nothing really wrong with it [aslong as you dont ignore MP5..or gimp your +Healing], most people talk from a purely selfish method of healing that ignores the benefits of ToL aura on tanks etc..

hi i m a resto druid 1910 healing and i m in a guild that goes mh4/5 and bt 4/9
i want to discuss about one prob that i have in raids
well i m using regroth lifebloom x3 and rejun.on tanks mostly and on others in raids only lifebloom to recover their health but when raid is end and the healing meter is shown in our guild web i see that i m not in a good place and i m in the 5 or 6 place of our 7 healers that we use for raids.can u answer with any helpfull reply how to be better at my healing?

Most likely other people are 'overhealing' ur HoT's ticking on raidmembers, so u dont get any raid-healing out of it, simply because others heal 'it up earlier'.

Healing-meters have this problem, if ur assigned to raid-healing u will always get more healing done, assuming everyone keeps up to his assignment.

Topping healing-meters on WWS is a matter of spamming Regrowth on anyone in the raid taking damage. Quite mana-inefficient and most likely not needed, but it puts you on top.

I'm a feral at heart, but sometimes I help healing, with approx 1980+ healing and feral-spec. It's very easy to 'top healingmeters' that way. It just shows that healing-meters alone are not very reliable, not without knowing the assignments.

if i spam regroth only ity will be better?

Wow Web Stats >---> Sunwell WWS through KJ
Wow Web Stats >---> Our Guilds WWS

Feel free to look through my WWSs, and I usually top, or can top, every fight with the exception of twins. That fight is just to TOO shaman friendly and chain heal cannot be matched on it.


Sometimes I get first by hotting tanks, sometimes by raid healing, sometimes by tank healing and off'ing raid. Healing as a resto druid is all about predicting damage intake, and proactive healing, not reactive.

By the way, you totally resurrected a dead thread. =p

Having more than 1 tree will also reduce your effective healing done.

Hey Boca awesome job

My guild recently downed Brutallus for the first time and I'm usually always top of our healing meters in Hyjal/BT (especially on fights like council) and even burn healing on brut pumps out a fair bit but I've never been top on a Klecgos kill (damn shamans).

Though good players tend to be on top consistently I agree with Ten and Norfair from the previous page in that I don't think healing meters hold much weight as a level of skill, especially for certain classes, like Shaman CH and Druids Lifeblooms :p

I looked at your wws and you seem to get a lot of healing from regrowth (more than lifeblooms) which I hardly ever use, how are you getting so much out of it? Is it part of a strat for later SW bosses? Looks like something I could improve on.