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Old 10/08/07, 8:16 AM   #181
Ele'
Piston Honda
 
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Human Warlock
 
Kirin Tor (EU)
I just wanted to point out that Drysc's post has been edited to provide the stats of the soon-to-be caster metagem.

Yes, we do plan to make a meta gem that fills that gap. 12% spell crit, 3% crit damage.
I'll assume that he mean 12 spell crit rating. Still, if this meta make it live it will make me a happy warlock . *Praying for smart requirements*

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Old 10/08/07, 2:26 PM   #182
Trazhenko
Don Flamenco
 
Troll Rogue
 
Illidan
Originally Posted by Aldriana View Post
I investigated this a bit myself, and after 15 minutes of stabbing rats and a respec, the answer seems to be that Murder applies twice on crits. On regular white attacks one does baseDamage*1.02 damage; on crits, one does baseDamage*1.02*2*1.02 damage, which is why it's showing up as 204% of base damage.

Also, apparently "critters" count as "beasts".
Are you sure it's base*1.02*2*1.02? That would yield ~208% base damage.

I was messing around hitting beasts and demons the other day (5% troll racial for beasts). I was seeing white crits with/without RED vs demons were 206%/200%, but vs beasts I was seeing ~221%/~215%.

This seems to indicate the slaying is more akin to base*1.05*(2+.05), and the RED is tacked on after for another 1.03 multiplier.

1.05*2.05=2.1525
1.05*2.05*1.03=2.217075

Those match my testing pretty well. I admit I didn't collect a lot of data. I just stabbed with a [Dirk] a few times and took the biggest hit and biggest crit. I figured if I saw 158 and 160 noncrits, 160 was the biggest I would see.

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Old 10/08/07, 2:51 PM   #183
• Aldriana
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Night Elf Rogue
 
Doomhammer
It's Base*1.02*2*1.02, which is 2.04 times a noncrit which does Base*1.02. It's 208% of what you *would* do without Murder on a noncrit, but it's 204% of what you actually do, with murder, on a non-crit.

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