TOW's great. You're looking at a ballpark figure of 3-5% increase to DPS for each player, depending on their class/spec, and assuming they are getting the full 3% hit bonus. You also help synergize on-hit and on-crit effects for spells. If multiple people in your group aren't getting the full hit bonus (capped or close), then you could probably justify Searing.

Any Idea about the DPS time?

1) ToW means 3% more crit, and 3% less hit you need to get on your gear (and thus, more dmg/crit)
2) More regen? I wouldn't worry about "dps time" too much, as long as your damage for the fight is good.

It is normal for our dps time to be low. It should be higher for classes with dots and fast melee attacks.

Plus we have to spend a significant amount of GCDs on buffs. 1 per totem, 1 for Totemic Call, and Heroism. It's not too bad on most fights but stuff like Al'ar and Void Reaver causes mobility to really put a tend into your DPS (and the reason why Warlocks tend to dominate these fights).

Edit- Tip: Get a debuff filter or some time of timer for your Flame Shocks. You can throw one at your target before you have to move and check the duration so you don't overlap them.

Right, now that BR is stable (lol) and I'm not busy raiding, here's my list of ele gears so far
[Cyclone Faceguard]
[Hydra-fang Necklace]
[Pauldrons of Wild Magic]
[Shawl of Shifting Probabilities]
[Worldfire Chestguard]
[Harbinger Bands]
[Cyclone Handguards]
[Belt of Divine Inspiration]
[Tidefury Kilt]
[Velvet Boots of the Guardian]
[Ring of Unrelenting Storms]
[Violet Signet of the Archmage]
[Xi'ri's Gift]
[The Lightning Capacitor]
[Nathrezim Mindblade]
[Dragonheart Flameshield]
[Totem of the Pulsing Earth]

Neck/chest/bracers/pants are obvious upgrades that I'm doing some pvp to replace

Gives me 797 Nature dmg, 240 crit, 53 hit and 27 mp5 (from gear).

Also, new copy of ShamStats up now :p

Ok, macro version is up!
Next project is getting conditional socket bonuses in (was previously assuming that socket bonuses would be met).

Also, should I make a new thread for my spreadsheet for updates/etc in the first post, or do you guys find my random updates in this thread ok?

I think this thread is plenty relevant and it never gets more than a page behind the front. The item dbase is still missing the Kael quest drop pewpew neck The Sun King's Talisman - Items - World of Warcraft. Other than that I'd say everything looks great. And thanks for all the time and effort you've been throwing at this, I really appreciate it as well as Im sure all the other real shaman (read:fuck melee) do.

Ah yes, I forgot about that one.

Sometimes I miss things >.<

Bink, on Shamstats, I believe the Icon of the Silver Crescent isn't yet selectable as an available trinket.

I've just started playing around with Shamstats and wanted to say nice job. Makes for a helpful shaman-focused Armory-style tool. Simple, fast, accessable and tiny file too, being Excel-based. I especially like the drop-down item selection so you can get a quick sense of the impact of loot switches or upcoming potential loots.

On Shamstats, Scintillating Coral Band and Vengeance of the Illidari are also not on their respective lists.

Bastion of Light and Merciless Gladiator's Reprieve have spell damage whereas they should have only healing.

Thanks for your hard work on these spreadsheets!

Sorry if this is a n00bish question, but I just got my shaman to 70 and am going elemental for some caster synnergy for the raid. The spreadsheet looks beautiful, but one thing I'm confused about, and I've run a search through both the thread and through all open forums... what do the abbreviations DEP/HEP stand for?

Damage equivalent point and healing equivalent point I believe.

That pretty much covers it. I got the idea from a hunter's AEP (Agility Equiv Points)

I've finished (I think) doing the gem bonus work I need to, so I've put up an "In Progress" copy.
This is more to check that it's working & get feedback before I go through and adjust the other pages (if you hadn't noticed, I like feedback ).

I'll add in more items over the next week or so, along with slowly rolling out the socket bonuses onto other item pages. I'd do more over the weekend, but I've got parties to go to

Hey. I'm currently raiding vr/mags/ and first 3 bosses of ssc lurker hydross and morogrim.

here is my armory link The Armory

I recently changed my trinkets from Icon of the silver crescent + shiffars nexus Horn to the icon and The lightnign capacitor because i was told the capicitor was a better dps trinket. Since the change i have drastically dropped on the dmg meters. Formily top 5 everytime everyfight except hydross, now im bottoming out maybe tenth or so depending on fight, with occasional jumps to about 6th.


Anyone got any advice?

I constantly have the same buffs. Full raid buffs shadow priest with me. Full raid consumables. Using a FS- 3x lb- 1x Cl rinse repeat rotation.

Right, so this is the Ele Help Line now?

Easy answer for you: Shiffars > Icon.
Why? Crit is life for shaman.

I agree with the first line...In almost every case Shiffar's will be better than Icon. An exception would be Phase3 in Reliquary of Souls, were the fight only lasts 60 seconds or so, and you can time your heroism, destruction potion, and trinket to make insane numbers. Basically .. Icon is a great burst fight trinket, but for a longer fight, shiffar's will win.

But the second line I highly disagree with. Shiffar's outdoes icon only because the proc is great, and the extra crit with it makes it better. Crit is a nice stat for elemental, but in the end spell damage is going to give you much more dps and is also cheaper in an item's budget.

small correction to your shamstat_070821 (sorry didn't check if you corrected in "in progress" file ). You're listing Nathrezim Mindblade as a nightbane drop, where it ofcourse is a Prince Malchezaar drop. No biggie by any means, but thought I'd point it out.

Also a couple perhaps noobish questions on use of the sheet.

1. on the first page "stats" there's a box called 'resto crit mod' it's set to 0.5, what does this value mean?

2. in your instructions on use you say to sort after selecting talents and again after selecting gems/enchants. Perhaps because I'm using a non english version of excel, but I'm uncertain as to what should be sorted and what excel function this refers to.

- "there are no stupid questions".... "only stupid questioners"

Since the dep/hep macro got in there i get an error when i select dep:
named argument not found. It points too DataOption1:=xlSortNormal in the dep macro.

Using exel 2004 for mac, which is the latest version.

Yeah I have currently Xiri's Gift and Shiffar's Nexus Horn. I am farming up badges for Icon, but honestly I don't know if dropping 30+ spell crit rating for 43 dmg, especially when I am never with a shadow priest is all that good an idea.

On the subject of Elemental DPS:

How advantageous is Haste rating for a Shaman? Items like Ring of Ancestral Knowledge and Flashfire Girdle force other stats to be lost (spell crit and damage/mp5 respectively). If it is worth persuing, at what point does it become not worth it? Would pairing the rings (as they are not unique) be good?

Right now most of my gear has a lot of mana efficiency and I'm looking to lower that in exchange for raw DPS, but without crippling myself in a long fight.

In order to knock 0.5 seconds off LB's cast time, you will need 394 haste.

Most haste items have around 37 haste rating. This is about 0.05 seconds off the cast time. IMO haste is still not worth if for elemental shaman. Remember CL (talented) is 1.5 seconds anyway.

If you have too much regen, swap some gear out for more dmg/crit than mp5