[Rogue] Question on specialization

naxro · 06/16/07, 7:47 AM

I've been a rogue for a long time, and I've heard many different things from different reliable sources, at different times; regarding a single issue: If you have fist specialization and mainhand a fist weapon, will your offhand get the critical strike increased chance? (same question for daggers/swords/maces).

Ages ago in the days of claw of the black drake, people claimed that the offhand did. Now people say it still does, others say it doesn't. I personally think they fixed it so it does not affect the offhand if it is not the right weapon kind, can someone who is positive site a source and tell me which it is pls?

Even though 5% crit on the offhand isn't the biggest deal in the world, i'm still curious...
much appreciated.

Spades · 06/16/07, 8:24 AM

The crit chance is applied per-hand. It used to function as an aura, it does not now.

• Vulajin · 06/17/07, 2:51 AM

You would have found the answer to this question if you had read the very first thread on this forum:

Working Theories of Theorycrafting as of 2.1

naxro · 06/18/07, 6:19 AM

posting a link listing it as a "generally accepted" theory is not a source, but thanks anyways.

sp00n · 06/18/07, 8:29 AM

It is the generally accepted theory here in the forum, based on someone's testings.
Therefore it is listed in that thread.

If you want more specific explanations, either search for that specific thread here in the forum (floating somewhere around, good luck), or if you don't believe the theories here, go test it for yourself. Grab a really low dagger as offhand and a normal fist as mainhand for example and go beating some mobs for half an hour. Don't forget to enable /combatlog and then after the test go figure out the crit rate for the high damage swings in the combat log and the low damage swings.
Then you have your answers.

Of course exactly this work was already posted here (as I've said, somewhere, can't find it myself at the moment), and this is the reason it was included in the thread being linked to.

But please don't expect that we do the work for you.

songster · 06/18/07, 9:33 AM

Originally Posted by sp00n

But please don't expect that we do the work for you.

A bit combative there, no? You're also wrong on that point. The entire purpose of this forum is to share accurate information on theorycrafting and mechanics - i.e. doing the work so that others don't have to repeat it.

As you say yourself, digging up the primary data from the mass of threads on this forum can be very difficult, which is why the sticky post was put together in the first place. Perhaps it needs to be clearer that the "accepted theories" really have been rigorously testes. Would it be possible to add links in the sticky pointing to the appropriate sections of the primary research threads?

Sarutobi · 06/18/07, 9:43 AM

Originally Posted by songster

A bit combative there, no? You're also wrong on that point. The entire purpose of this forum is to share accurate information on theorycrafting and mechanics - i.e. doing the work so that others don't have to repeat it.

Share information, yes.

Restate currently accepted theories in 10-20 new threads each week when the information is included in the stickies or could be found with about 30 seconds of effort (*hint* search *hint*), no.

Spades · 06/18/07, 11:05 AM

Is Windfury better for melee groups than GoA?

sp00n · 06/18/07, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by songster

A bit combative there, no? You're also wrong on that point. The entire purpose of this forum is to share accurate information on theorycrafting and mechanics - i.e. doing the work so that others don't have to repeat it

Correct, but should I/we do the work of digging up that thread?
That was my whole point, I'd had no problem if that wasn't already tested and he couldn't do it because of lag of time/money/whatever, but it was, and the results were written down.

• Aldriana · 06/18/07, 1:23 PM

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