Bear tank item comparisons - Page 21

FunBall · 04/13/07, 3:55 AM

New values for the Malorne Harness

Helm
411 Armor
37 Strength
29 Agility
24 Stamina
15 Intellect
Yellow/Meta Gem (+4 agility socket bonus)

Shoulder
334 Armor
30 Strength
24 Agility
21 Stamina
6 Intellect
2x Blue Sockets (+3 crit socket bonus)

Chest
557 Armor
29 Strength
30 Agility
30 Stam
10 Int
Yellow, Blue, Red socket (+4 hit socket bonus)

Gloves
404 Armor
29 Strength
24 Stamina
9 Int
21 Crit Rating

Legs
558 Armor
38 Strength
28 Agility
33 Stamina
22 Intellect

So they've basically eliminated spirit and some intellect from the set in favor of extra armor and stamina. It lacks defense for crit reduction, although that is simple enough to get in other slots.

Also, there's a new item you can pick up with 60 Badges of Justice...

Cowl of Beastly Rage (Head Piece)
371 Armor
27 Strength
24 Agility
24 Stamina
18 Intellect
Yellow/Meta Gem sockets (+4 Strength socket bonus)

squiffy · 04/13/07, 3:58 AM

Wow! Braxis' Staff of Slumber got 39 stam added to it

Supple Leather Boots
352 armour
22 Str
11 Agi
24 Stam

Ah, swines, they removed the AP from them

• Vandemar · 04/13/07, 4:03 AM

Here's a screenshot from the PTR, showing the mouseover on the ring.

Nathariel · 04/13/07, 4:03 AM

Odd that the Blue ring was changed but neither of the top 2 epics was.

Melthar · 04/13/07, 4:19 AM

Originally Posted by FunBall

Gloves
404 Armor
29 Strength
24 Stamina
9 Int
21 Crit Rating

Still crit rating?..
Please someone post and suggest it gets replaced with agi.. 21 agi instead of crit rating would make them damn tasty indeed. As it is, with more stam and 14agi vs a piddly 11 AC, Verdant gloves are still better for tanking..

Kharlis · 04/13/07, 6:27 AM

Any news on feral staff of lashing or the underbog heroic staff?

Falk · 04/13/07, 7:15 AM

HOLY SHIT THESE FORUMS NEED A [size] TAG FOR ME TO PROPERLY EXPRESS MYSELF

http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/news/210/druidt5.jpg

Gibbles · 04/13/07, 7:24 AM

Another break to the bear theme of this thread, but look at the new Ogri'la reward trinket:

Crystalforged Trinket
+7 weapon damage
Use: Increase attack power by 216

Thats an equivalent of 98 AP in cat form, 314 AP on use. Easily better than bloodlust brooch for dps.

Daboran · 04/13/07, 7:42 AM

Originally Posted by Gibbles

Another break to the bear theme of this thread, but look at the new Ogri'la reward trinket:

Crystalforged Trinket
+7 weapon damage
Use: Increase attack power by 216

Thats an equivalent of 98 AP in cat form, 314 AP on use. Easily better than bloodlust brooch for dps.

If it works for Feral of course...

Rurik · 04/13/07, 8:00 AM

Originally Posted by Daboran

If it works for Feral of course...

Weapon damage on rings work for feral, so I can't see why a trinket wouldn't.
Afaik it's only weapon damage on weapons that don't work.

Kink · 04/13/07, 9:00 AM

Originally Posted by Melthar

Still crit rating?..
Please someone post and suggest it gets replaced with agi.. 21 agi instead of crit rating would make them damn tasty indeed. As it is, with more stam and 14agi vs a piddly 11 AC, Verdant gloves are still better for tanking..

I am really happy with these changes truth be told. The gloves are the ONLY piece without agility. It is a feral set and it seems to me it covers that well. high armour, good DPS stats, good agility values on the other pieces... overall it should be very nice and definately viable to use as long as we can get our +defence from other slots.

Entropie · 04/13/07, 9:03 AM

Heavy Clefthoof Leggings: +252AC, -9 stamina, -5 defense rating
Heavy Clefthoof Boots : +196AC, -7 stamina, -3 defense rating
Heavy Clefthoof Chest : +210AC, -7 stamina, -4 defense rating

Fair trade I'd say!

Kazanir · 04/13/07, 9:17 AM

Originally Posted by Entropie

Heavy Clefthoof Leggings: +252AC, -9 stamina, -5 defense rating
Heavy Clefthoof Boots : +196AC, -7 stamina, -3 defense rating
Heavy Clefthoof Chest : +210AC, -7 stamina, -4 defense rating

Fair trade I'd say!

Yeah. I'd say. Time for every last damn druid to go report that druids hate crit rating and want Agi and Hit rating instead.

Maratai · 04/13/07, 9:18 AM

Please forgive my complete lack of faith in itemization...yet again. For starters, re:

Also, there's a new item you can pick up with 60 Badges of Justice...

Cowl of Beastly Rage (Head Piece)
371 Armor
27 Strength
24 Agility
24 Stamina
18 Intellect
Yellow/Meta Gem sockets (+4 Strength socket bonus)

Crunching the numbers, we come up with, yet again, another piece of trash loot that no one in their right mind would wear to dps or tank.

The crafted Cobrascale is better for dps, and the crafted stylin purple for tanking. Oh wait, since ferals have ZERO professions that they need primal nethers for, we can save the money from the crafted helm and use the heroic tokens for this piece of ______.

On the other hand, that Ogre Trinket +7 wpn dmg looks very VERY nice.

Daboran · 04/13/07, 9:22 AM

Originally Posted by Entropie

Heavy Clefthoof Leggings: +252AC, -9 stamina, -5 defense rating
Heavy Clefthoof Boots : +196AC, -7 stamina, -3 defense rating
Heavy Clefthoof Chest : +210AC, -7 stamina, -4 defense rating

Fair trade I'd say!

While nice, I don't know how much more useful this makes them until I try some gear setups. I was already wary of gimping threat and dodge too much by wearing full Clefthoof. I don't think that will change.
Bears need more choice in +def gear definitely. I'm disappointed they didn't spend at least a few points of the T4 budget on it.

On the upside, that's a serious buff to Thoriumweave Cloak