Its possible that those items are simply an elaborate troll.

I should have been more specific.

What I meant was that blizzard stated multiple times that the gear you obtained while leveling wasn't your raiding gear (remember the complaints about the lack of spirit on cloth healing items).
Also it's rather obvious that the best tanking items are those few items (for there item budget) that you just summed up. Also, they are available from quests, which leads me to believe that it's blizzard intention for druids to tank while leveling up, and that they don't really have any intentions to add tanking gear in raids, since that's not there envisioned role of raiding ferals.
At least that's the feeling I'm getting. Tanking in 5mans, and in raids dps'ing/tanking some 'ARE YOU A BEAR?! YOU ARE NOT A BEAR *instagib*' kind of encounters.

[e] This does not mean I don't like tanking though, I simply love to tank in 5 mans and raiding groups. I'm just a pessimist. Instead of 'waiting for Godot' it should be 'waiting for Beartanking items'. Hehe

Well, they've got form.

This is exactly what happened in vanilla. Druid tanks were fine until the endgame began, and then they were worthless.

At least most of the Draenei/Blood Elf rerollers have hit 70 by now, so I can level my warlock in peace.

We need 8.6% to hit a +3 mob.

Is this different for druids than say.... warriors? Because with a 2-hander a warrior only needs 6% hit (same 5.6%). Hunters need 8.6, but thats because of the weird penalties and different mechanics for ranged.

That said; I've got 5.9% hit in my tanking gear and I can't remember the last time I saw a miss.

There was a lot of discussion in this thread which is now in the archives.
Warriors also need 8.6% to never miss with a two handed weapon now.

Can you link to that thread? I did a search and all I found supporting the 8.6% number was you in a couple other threads saying the same thing.

Just wearing helm of the claw with http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24061, 2 of those also in my assassination shoulders, the usual quested high-armor gear (jerkin of untamed spirit, umberhowl's, verdants, manimals, ash tempered, supple). I try to gear for around ~20k armor and put dps gear into other slots. I'm wearing my dps cloak for example which has like 20 hit rating. For trash mobs in Kz I generally wear my full dps gear since dps doesn't give me time and I don't want to lose aggro (I suppose this won't even be enough post-nerfs).

I dinged 61 on my lock last nite

I did link the thread in the post you quoted.
That whole line is a link.

Interesting thread, I'm not sure I'd hard and fast conclude as you are from that that the hit cap is 8.6%; there were definitely some misses with people having more than 6% hit but interestingly nearly all of them were dual wielding. I wonder if there's some buggy stuff there.

I can say I'm leveling my warrior now and with 7% hit and a 2h and I haven't missed a single thing since I started after this nerf was announced and that was 2 days ago.

Yea I wear bogstrok cloak for bosses. Thoriumweave is fine but I like the extra defense on the bogstrok. I also wear the revered violet ring and the shermanar great ring that drops off aran I think. Mark of tyranny is also a great tanking trinket - my druid never did the level 60 dungeons since I leveled up specifically for TBC so it was a no-brainer to take that over the blackhand's especially since I have hourglass of the unraveller and bladefists.

If the threat nerf goes through you'll probably be forced into even more dps gear than before, just to try to hold aggro. Which will cause me to take more damage, which will cause people to wonder why I'm in there, which will only hasten my exit from tanking on my druid.

Oh well, warrior dinged 62 a few minutes ago, at least they nerfed it now rather than 6 months from now when I'd be hopelessly behind.

There is no way that you have over 1000 stamina and 20k HP with standard raid buffs. Maybe with a Lung Juice, and Stamina food you could reach... close too that, but now with just a fortitude, kings and a mark. I have higher stamina gear and armor gear than you, and with standard raid buffs I only reach slightly over 16k HP and 20k armor... unless I'm missing something here I wanna know how your able to justify having that much stamina. I also have the entire Heavy Clefthoof set, which is the highest stamina leather set there is with the Solid Star of Elune in each blue slot, and Enduring Talasite in the yellow slots. http://ctprofiles.net/5137556 is my CT Profile, i'm just curious as too how your getting this 1000 stamina cause as far as i can tell, regardless of which gear your wear, it isn't possible.

Justify? Because he could If you read a few posts above, I asked if any druids had pulled it off. I recently did with Mark, Imp, Fort, Kings, Mastery, and Food buffs. Why? Because I could ...

20k is surprisingly easy, I am usually tanking Karazhan with about 18-19 and thats in favor of some mitigation/dodge gear. For my HP set I use:

Stylin' Purple Hat (45 stam)
Mark of the Ravenguard (40 stam) or Strength of the Untamed (27stam)
Shoulderpads of Assassination (25 stam + 2x12 stam gems)
Threaded elementium cloak (13 stam) yea yea i know...
Heavy Clefthoof vest (52 stam + 3x12 stam gems)
Umberhowl's Collar (22+4 all)
Wastewalker Gloves (33 + 2x12 stam)
Manimal's Clutch (24 stam)
Heavy Clefthoof Leggings (42 + 3x12 + 30)
Heavy Clefthoof Boots (37 + 12 + 2x12)
Iron Band of the Unbreakable (27)
Violet Signet (30)
Blessed Quiraji War Hammer (12)
Tuurik Torch of Stamina (46)

That totals 733 Stamina from naked + gear. With bloodpact, motw, fort, kings its very easy to go over 20k. So far the highest I have been is just under 24k with a flask and the regal protectorate activated. Had I had commanding shout at the time it would have been even higher.

Mind you a lot of this sacrifices mitigation, and I know I will be chided on putting so many stamina gems in, however I generally only use 1 or 2 of the clefthoof pieces, so they are really just there to boost my HP pool when neccesary.

Ultimately this level of HP is just silly stupid, however it does help with learning fights, as it allows a massive amount of healer wiggle room.

Well ya with potions I could pull it off too, from my understanding he is talking about doing this with normal raid buffs, which simply isn't possible in the gear he has on.

20k hp is quite easy to reach even without going for max stamina gear, all you need is kings and to be a tauren, I'm actually still surprised how high our hp is compared to warriors, even though there gear seems to have quite a lot more stamina on it.

gimme a sec, ill post the whole image. Stamina wise, there ya go. Mark, Fort, Kings, Imp and food and my gear.

Didn't want to start its own thread over this simple question; I've read a lot about the Armor and damage loss for bear tanks, but how does the +25% HP change affect from +25% Stam in dire bear form?

I've got 4274 unbuffed health and 84 stamina (white value) with SotF. So the health switch will cost me about 860 health. I would lose 300 health bonus from a Flask of Titans, or 375 health from a Flask of Fortification.

So you're looking at around 1200 less health from the same gear. It's a bigger PvP hit than a raid hit, since you'll have quite a few stamina buffs in a raid to compensate.

Say it isn't so!

So thats not a Flask of the Titans with 1.28hr left on it?