Thanks for running that for me! I'm not sure why I wasn't able to run it myself .. tried IE and Mozilla .. on two different computers. It's entirely likely that I'm just being a nub, though.

Try installing Java from this link, it helped me.
Yo's post

Regarding cloaks, has anyone looked at the http://www.mmo-champion.com/images/n...wvioleteye.jpg
Cloak of Darkness?

I couldn't check the PTR at the moment for it, so I can't verify if it's legit or not. But if it is, it looks like a pretty good cloak considering the mats?

With a Bold Living Ruby you're looking at 31 strength, 25 sta, 24 crit rating. Seems like a very nice cloak for anyone pre-MH\BT.

You get a gold star for the day. That worked like a champ .. thanks!

The Violet Eye cloak is what Shabadu was referencing a couple posts ago.

What a royal PITA getting a LW 4 nethers though. Other mats are fairly reasonable, but the nethers suck. I was all set to craft a Vengeance Wrap, but may just hold out for this come Tuesday.

I started out as enhancement and went to resto to help my guild progress into SSC (Yeah, back when it was "OMG I need more +hit!!"). I understand that an enhancement shaman is very nice to have the farther into endgame you get, so I was looking around for the best gear to have. I have picked up a lot of what I thought was good enhancement gear, but according to lootzor.com - World of Warcraft search and rate items - profile your wow character none of the t4 etc gear I have is worth crap. Is this AEP chart correct. Is fel leather gloves really better than my t4 /cry?

On another note, haveing a faster OH gimps my DPS by stealing more WF procs, so Is my runic hammer any good, or should I ditch it for a blue that is slower?

The Fel leather items are good, sure. But wearing all of them at once would be like a priest wearing the entire Primal Moon Cloth set all at once - you'd be unlikely to survive any of the AoE effects in SSC and TK. Stamina may not improve DPS directly, but I'd sure as hell not take more than 1-2 items that had none.

I've been running some tests to try and figure out what the best two endgame trinkets to shoot for would be. I have access to both Dragonspine and Tsunami Talisman at the moment. I plan on having Ashtongue as one of these for sure in the future, but for now I would like to just acquire one of these two trinkets.

So far it seems like Dragonspine would win over over the Tsunami Talisman, and from what I've seen of how some of our DPS'ers damage has scaled once they aquired a Trophy, it seems quite effective.

However I have one question, does anyone know if Yo's calculator uses the current haste rating value for Dragonspine Trophy, or 2.2's haste values?

*BTW I would like to thank everyone here for all the hard work they have put into discussing and discovering so much about our class. This thread has been a great guide to improving my dps. :-)

He uses 2.2 values for his sim.

Seems like Dragonspine just wins hands down at least by the values on the sim. I don't know how accurate it is, not much of a way to test it in game until I get a trinket :-P

Has anyone run some comparisons on the two trinkets in game? Would be very intested to hear if anyone has compared them or has a personal opinion on which trinket is better.

Thats exactly what the sim is for, so you dont have to get every possible combination and test it out ingame. If the sim says DST is better, it is.

Also, I managed to refrain mysef in your previous post, but now you'r asking for it : STOP SIGNING YOUR POSTS

Speaking of which, I just helped put together a pug Gruul's Lair run, and it dropped, and I won! Holy crap I can't begin to explain how excited I am right now. What are the odds? Like 7 people rolled, hah.

Just to clarify, the best possible combination for endgame trinkets is currently Ashtongue Talisman of Vision + Madness of the Betrayer, possibly replacing the latter with DST if you don't get a Madness to drop, correct?

Hmm I seem to be getting better numbers after a certain amount of base AP/Crit is obtained with the Dragonspine than with Madness.

I honestly believe that maybe the Dragonspine is still better. The reason being typically about 50% of our DPS is white and once your base stats hit a certain point, those extra attacks you get from the haste rating outweigh the armor penetration proc on Madness.

I could be wrong though. But it does make sense that the Dragonspine would scale up as the rest of your gear scaled up whereas other trinkets provide a more static increase.

I've recently starting leveling a shaman, planning on raiding as enhancement.

One thought struck me while looking at specs, what if you specced for Elemental Devestation( Your offensive spell crits will increase your chance to get a critical strike with melee attacks by 9% for 10 sec.) ?
Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Assuming an unbuffed spellcrit of 7%, adding a ret-paladin for 3% additional crit and Winter's Chill for an extra 10% Frost Crit (Assuming you're not capped by the threat), you would reach 20% spellcrit while Frost Shocking.

Using a shock every 5 sec with 20% crit would result in a 40% uptime of Elemental Devestation? Someone who is a bit better on math could perhaps elaborate this thought.

If you'd read most of the posts you'd find that most Enhancement shaman spec into Resto for the sheer viability, utility, and versatility. +3% hit, faster reincarnations, cheaper totems, and 30 yard range totem effects of note. In the end whether you go Ele or Enhance is up to you, however most Shaman found that the bonus dmg you receive from Ele tends to be outweighed by the benefits from Resto.

I laughed while reading this and consequently had to explain why to my fiancee, who didn't find this nearly as amusing as I did.

If you weren't threat capped to begin with (unlikely) you sure as hell would be when you started frost shocking.

You're going to need to explain that one.

Well in a way of stats, do i need to keep upping attack power, or do i need more hit for the current gear i have?

just for your math, the logical failure of your idea was explained previously.

the probability to crit with two shocks and 20% crit is 1-(1-0.2)² = 0.36, so you would be expecting a 36% uptime.

As for now elemental devastation is crap, especially since you can't use frostshock anyway.

In a far, far away future we might reconsider it, if and only if flametongue/frostbrand can proc it and those ap->spelldmg changes will be integrated. Then it might be possible to dual wield flametongue with ultrafast daggers and 15+ hits (incl. flameshock) in 10s to achieve an >80% uptime with 10% crit. This is purely theoretical though.

My bad that I missed that reference.

I just took up BS next to LW and after getting 8 nethers for my Dragonmaw I dont think it'll be that hard to get 4 more

It's an excellent cloak for someone who has cleared Kara and is just starting off in SSC\TK though, which is why I think it should be considered like the other cloaks.

Most likely if you're at that level you're running a few heroics while not raiding, so for a cloak you wont upgrade until you've killed KT, it's definetly worth getting those four nethers.

Heh. I have been a bored 70 for quite some time now and while my guild only raids 3 nights per week i still don't find myself ever inside of a heroic. It was painful enough running Heroic Mana Tombs 21 times to get the totem.

Yeah I was scratching my head, but since the underlying question was "how much hit do i need" I stopped reading.