Wait... 1125 points? I can buy 2 :I. They can't not have a rating requirement, all the other weapons do o.O

yes, I believe all season 3 weapons have a 1850 rating requirement. time to pair up with a warlock..

When viewed at the Vendor, the tooltip for the item says "Requires 1850 personal arena rating". If you then shift-click the item to produce an item link, the new tooltip for the item will not show the arena rating requirement. ie, when you are wearing the items on your char, they will no longer show the rating requirement, since its not required to wear them, just to buy them. Savvy?

Would be nice if they also added a season 1 and 2 slow offhand... but i guess that will not happen....

You mean like... [Merciless Gladiator's Cleaver]?

No, i mean like the [...Gladiator's Left Render] or [...Gladiator's Chopper].

Which cost less then half of what the one-handers cost... (e.g. 1125 arena points vs 2625 arena points). For the 'older' arena weapons we only have the expensive option if we need it for our offhand... and the new one needs 1850 arena rating...

This is a nice change for sure. These new offhands will save us all 1500 pts. Some early playing around with yo's yields (for me) a ~2% upgrade over 2 supremus hammers which is our current best combo. Now I can buy them both on week 1

Is it really for you or could they in actual fact be better than them in general?
anyone able to confirm? can't check right now myself.

Did someone recalculate the Dragonspine Thropy PPM and uptime values after 2.2 patch? I can't really beleive it's still the best trinket for us as it drops from a T4 instance and it was nerfed in 3 ways with 2.2 (haste nerf, ppm nerf(?), internal cooldown added)
Dragonspine Trophy Analysis
In the end of this thread it's a bit confusing that it's still the best trinket for us or not. Some say it's 1 PPM now and in the first post of this thread we assume 1.5 PPM.

In practice i'm finding RT/Syphon to be better than 2 x Syphon. Yo's sim doesnt agree, but then sims are only a guide.

By the same token, I am wondering if S3/Syphon will be better than S3/S3. Seems to me like 2.6/2.8 is, in practice, better than 2.6/2.6 or 2.8/2.8 simply because in pve it's easy to always be hitting with the offhand before the mainhand when using same speed weapons, which would pretty significantly reduce your dps. If you're using 2.6/2.8 or 2.7/2.8, eventually it will come 'round to a full cycle and for a good portion of the time your mainhand will be "allowed" to proc windfury before your offhand.

I use 2x Syphon for the most part, only switching to RT/Syphon for fights where the stamina helps, like Sharaz and Council.

Berg, no one can buy a weapon that requires more than 1500 personal rating on week 1. Everyone has to wait until at least the next tuesday in order to purchase it. However, I do wish you luck.
My experience as enhance in arena, is that I can reach half way into the 1600s before falling like a rock. I have doubts that I can get a personal rating of 1850... which is fine, they are supposed to be arena weapons, not something for fighting Kil'jaeden. All I know is that sunwell better damnwell have a non-unique, non-sword slow one hander.

I had not considered this. Is this verified or are you assuming that the 1850 will need to make it through one week to become valid?

The team arena score updates on the fly so I see no reason why it would prevent you from buying once your team breaks the 1850 mark on week 1.

These changes are really exciting as far as our PvP itemization is concerned. I'm glad my crusade to get the glove equip bonus changed was successful. The small amounts of MP5 on S3 gear aren't really enough to complain about given that the pieces are otherwise very well itemized (DPS stats split between STR, Hit, Crit, ignore armor, and yellow/red sockets on the two items with MP5). Does anyone have a link to the aforementioned "Vengeful Gladiator's Left Render"? If such a thing exists, I'm definitely going to have to figure out a way to get 1850 personal rating. (That axe graphic is pretty ugly and while I find the maces and fists cool, I couldn't find a 2.6 speed off-hand mace or fist.)

As far as PvE itemization, well, perhaps these changes show they're listening and will take the MP5 off T6 if we bother them enough?

I can't seem to get your armory to load, but aren't you a smith? Are you really seeing better results dual wielding Syphon(every test I've done and sim I've ran have Dragonstrike coming out 2+% ahead)? I'm not asking to criticize, but to find insights that maybe 30 min periods on Blasted Lands mobs or 10000 hours on sims aren't showing me.

For Rob:

http://www.worldofraids.com/news/oct...ons/render.jpg
http://www.worldofraids.com/news/oct...ns/chopper.jpg

Doesn't have the mace but it's basically the same thing.

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That's an axe not a mace.

Found my own link to the "Left Render" at WoR.

It looks to me like in these screenshots the MH weapons are currently not requiring an 1850 rating to equip. Compare the above shot to this one showing the Right Ripper for comparison; the item icon isn't overlaid with red to show it's not equippable and the "Requires 1850" isn't appearing in the text. This is a very interesting change as well.

Argh, nvm. You just proved the people in the PTR topic wrong by the way.

Has anyone tested the hidden cooldown effect with totem'ing the mainhand and windfurying the offhand(are they unlinked)? What about a weaponswap that quickly throws the offhand into main for the WF totem buff, and then swaps back? I know the second option would be a lot of extra hassle.

From the first post:
If you are going to go to that much trouble to get the WFT imbue on the offhand, why not just use Flametongue?

Another request (starting to feel like a spammer here). As I suck on macros:
Macro to:
(equip totem, will this trigger GDC? if yes, do it after startattack)
Start attack
Stormstrike

and repeat.

I've tried some experimenting but macro simply stops attack after 2-3 push.

Thanks a lot.