17% spell resist rate for Ele/Enh, compared to 14% for Enh/Resto?

Point to be made about % of damage dealt by shaman through shocks:

Base ES damage: 658-692.
Base FlameS damage: 377(+422 DoT)
WCS: no raid buffs/16% resist rate.

Maybe just a typo, later corrected.

The dmg increase would be more than 1% and in addition to that you pick up survivability with -10% dmg from frost, fire, and nature dmg sources. I'm not sure of any particular fights excluding Archie where you really need the +10 yard totem range. And with mana not even being an issue anymore..... If a talent is being picked for one specific fight, it's time to rethink that pick.

Personally I'm only liking his spec idea because it inculdes Elemental Warding. There's a lot of fights I'd have lived through had I had that talent. The dps increase is just icing.

Only time I'm not in a pure melee group is in a 10 man, and then the totems don't really matter as much anyways. A caster can be within 20 yards of me. If your raid doesn't put 4 other melee with you as an enhancement shaman, then you're really kind of borked already. Not your fault of course, but still.

10% dmg reduction on some nondispellable fire/frost/nature damage is really nice (liked it when I was ele specced).

Worth testing for sure.

Tremor is 30yad range + 10talent.
Boss spell resist rate is 17%. Hit cap is 16%
I have tested 16/41/0 couple days and I have to redrop totems like madman. I miss extra range, rogues are mad, dps is worser. Double check facts before posting. We have seen plenty of maths about elem/ench. Only good thing about suicide spec is elemental warding and improved fire totems for hyjal trash AOE.

Edit: Never trust tooltip.

Totemic Mastery makes a difference. I think you take for granted how small 20 yards actually is, it's shock range. On any fight that requires movement ie: Rage, Azgalor, Archimonde, Gurtogg(if you are taking bloodboils), Mother, Council, p2 Illidan, and to a lesser eckstent Supremus the point in Totemic Master will be invaluable. Do you want to take the chance that your group misses a wf application and has to wait <5 seconds to get it back on their weapon? Sounds like a terrible idea and I'm sure them losing wf for even a few seconds will be a bigger loss in raid DPS than if you were to sub in resto.

You seem to be forgetting totemic focus as well. I think our last council kill I laid ~130 totems and rough guessing that as 8000 mana saved through that talent alone.

I really can't imagine running around with 12% hit either, sounds terrible.

Well I just did several runs on yo's sim, testing this ele vs resto debate for my values.

1736 AP/33.71% crit/10.27% hit/1% spell hit (base values).

With reverb + concussion I got 1644/1644/1643 DPS, with shocks being 267 dps.

With NG I got 1655/1656/1655 DPS, with shocks being 244 dps.

Interestingly the dps difference between shocks is as predicted by lionsfist (about 22-25dps).

I actually think that as gear improves (I.e end game gear) with insanely high AP/Crit/Hit then NG scales better as your white damage increases.

I think I'm going to be going with a 2/45/14 spec like this as I can't see any reason to max out totemic focus (I dont have mana issues atm so definitly wont after patch).

You came up with 200 dps and 300 dps after 2.3 just like similar post few pages before.
The problem is that no shaman specced ele instead of resto can reach 200 dps now. In fact 100 dps is something seen rarely on wws. The difference in prediction melee damage and spell damage from actual in-game results is huge. Run my sim - it predictsa melee damage really well but gives those unreacheble numbers for elemental damage. There are many reasons why, but the main reason is that melee damage is automatic for the most part while you have to manually press shock button and it is not possible to do it on every cooldown due to interference from GCD and enviromental changes. If you really want to put math behind it - calculate how many shocks per 2 minutes one will be able to perform without interfrring with SS every 10 seconds, UR, 1 trinket/racial activation, 1 potion, 3 totems (no totem twisting) with 1.5 GCD + 0.2 net+ brain lag, with 5 sec and 6 sec talents.

On your math - you compared ele spec without GCD from SS with resto spec with GCD to achieve not very impressive 57 dps gain. If you'd use same methodology (no GCD both times) with your numbers it would result in 27 DPS gain only. With GCD accounted both times the difference is probably even lowever. So we are talking about 2 dps per talent point increase - I would rather view the specs from utility pov such as increased totem range.

EDIT:
My sim has no support for GCD but predicts NG better for overall damage even with those inflated elemental damage numbers.

Edit 2:
EP instead of AEP - I thought that we are using Attack power Eq. Points

One of my best Shock dps WWS was at 92.19 dps as 0/45/16. So I'd have to agree that 200+ shock dps isn't attainable at a rough guess with pre-BC numbers. I don't think 2.3 numbers increase things enough to hit 200 shock dps... Is his math completely off then? Could someone show the correct math?

The GCD was there in the resto spec. The point being that you could get a 5 second cycle without interfering with your SS rotation, being 10 second...

Include lag as small as 0.2 sec and cycle will start to shift:
0 - SS
1,7 - shock
6,9 - shock
10 - SS
11,9 - instead of 11,7 eventually resulting in missed shock or delayed SS.
Some shocks can be missed if person waits with SS for WF cooldown.
About 3 shocks will be additionally missed when activating on 2 min timer abilities.

I really like the stonebreaker totem. Since I now never seem to go below 90-80% mana even when spamming shocks every gcd the buff is up almost all the time. And I didn't even remember the SR change. That would account for me living through a few of those "oops I got aggro" pulls.

I need several sets of eyes to go through the OP with a fine toothed comb and find any discrepancies that need to be fixed for the 2.3 changes please. I am in the process of changing have changed every instance of AEP to EP. So the new buzz word is Enhancement Points --> EP.

I just wanted to get into Kara last night and get some numbers. It wasn't an ideal test because the only raid buffs I had were Int, Mark and a Hunter's pet giving ferocious inspiration. (I didn't even have salv so I had to get a GoA totem down all the time.) I don't know if the raid leader kept WWS... If he did I'll post a link, but this is a limited test. We only killed Hunts, Moreos and R&J. I was also threat limited a lot of the time so I'd expect these numbers to improve in 25-man with our MT and a few palys.

Recap numbers - (They don't include my fire totem that was down most of the time.)

Melee - 42.5% - 553,351 damage - miss 14.0% - crit 31.6%
Windfury - 30.8% - 400,989 damage - miss 3.8% - crit 28.7%
Earth Shock - 15.8% - 205,409 damage - miss 8.5% - crit 6.0%
Stormstrike - 8.7% - 113,610 damage - miss 3.3% - crit 28.6%
Decapitator - .9% - 12,039 damage
Flame Shock - .9% - 11,330 damage - miss 20.0% - crit 8.30%
Romulo's - .5% - 6156 damage (About half way through I noticed I had Romulo's trinket and switched it for Hourglass.)

Early on I was getting a lot of resists on flame shock so I was casting earth shock more. Plus generally I'll use Earth Shock if I don't think the mob is going to live until all my ticks are done anyway.

I'm 17/44/0.

If I was 0/45/16, could we expect to see the following?

White Melee increases by 3% = 553,351 * .03 = 16,601 additional white
Shock damge decreased by 1 second and 5% = 216,739 * (5/6) / 1.05 = 172,015
Shock damage increased by 3% = 172,015 * 1.03 = 177,175

So white and shocks for 0/45/16 = 553,351 + 16,601 + 177,175 = 747,127
Observed white and shocks for 17/44/0 = 553,351 + 216,739 = 770,090

So it looks like 17/44/0 did 22,963 or 1.8% more damage than 0/45/16 would have done. Plus I had 2 point into elemental devistation so my crit must have went up just a tiny tiny bit.

It might also be worth noting:
Earth shock average 1079, high 1281
Earth shock CRIT average 1703, high 1848

Flame Shock should actually have a lower resist rate than Earth Shock because its a partial resist spell, whereas Earth Shock is a binary spell and is all or nothing on resists.

It's been mentioned before, but the part about OH selection can now include the formerly Main Hand Karazhan weapons (Malchezaar's axe, Illhoof's mace).
These weapons gave, with my stats (Heroics/Crafted/Karazhan gear) better figures than a Runic Hammer.

Also, the thread about the Mongoose / Executioner comparison now contains a table that shows the benefit of Executioner (very logically) increases the more Armor Penetration you already have elsewhere.
Maybe the Weapon enchantments section could reflect this (thus making Executioner preferable with ZA/Badges/BT gear than with entry raid gear).
Just a couple of thoughts from one set of eyes, with a maybe not so fine-toothed comb.

@Monkey - Flameshock outperforms because of raid debuffs, so if you didn't have those debuffs in a 10 man it makes perfect sense.

@Jerem - the OP already includes a note saying that the 2 KZ weapons can now be used in the OH, I've mentioned this several times now. Its right there at the top of the OH weapons section.
However I have updated the following bit today -
Now I'm sure that WF/WF on anything past Foolsbane will still outperform the dagger with WF/FT, but are we safe to say that an epic dagger (perhaps even the consortium rep one) would outperform the Runic Hammer? (it will obviously be better than a green 2.6)

Its nice to be able to tank free mobs for short periods of time now. I tanked some bad pulls in BT today (we were pulling stupidly fast because our instance servers went down) while other stuff was dpsed down by using SR. And it is especially fun on things like Naj'entus where you can use it just before you break the shield and cut the damage down to ~5-6k. I can't wait to get fel raged this week.

The biggest thing I am having trouble getting used to is the new water shield, I always see it with < 1min left and REALLY want to recast it.

Also, this was mentioned in the undocumented patch notes thread but I figured I would throw it in here too: Gorefiend no longer targets totems with his shadow bolt thingies. I have mixed feelings about this, I no longer need to redrop totems every 2 seconds on that fight but I am no longer taking away from the overall raid damage taken anymore.

I agree about the changes to water shield, it was hard getting used to last night.

I might stop casting it anyway, i don't need the mana at all anymore, and a few extra hits from lightning shield are welcome enough.

I agree with the Water Shield change. I love the change, it practically guarantees unless I'm a complete waste I will never run out of mana. But last night in The Eye, I recast it a couple times on reflex because I saw the timer so low. Not that it wasted mana, but it retarded the delivery of the free mana. It will take some time to get accustomed too.

Last night I was seeing my Mana Spring totem ticking for what looked like +92 mana per 2 seconds. Does our new 30% AP --> Spellpower talent cause an increased effect on Mana Spring? From reading earlier, I believe this is the case. That just seemed like an ungodly increase to it's normal 20 mp/2. Anyone else seeing these numbers?

Spell damage does not affect Mana Spring.

You must have dropped healing spring somehow, theres no way mana spring can ever tick that high. I think my healing spring ticks somewhere a little over 100 which matches that idea nicely.