Ty for your fast reply indeed.

I see. So fury in the bank

Because of the fury that have a red gem, (which i put 16 ap), i lost also around to 15 ap with this combination.

Anyway, do you know if the executioner is on Offhand, i have any problems?

Did anyone reach a final conclusion on the uptime of Dragonstrike? We finally got another Rising Tide this week which I picked up and I'd like to compare the numbers, but I'm pretty sure the sim provides an unreasonable uptime for the proc. At the moment I'm not convinced RT/Syphon is better than my previous DS/Syphon... so, does anyone have an more accurate uptime?

Would also like a conclusion to this as i'm in the same boat here.

I would use Fury over S2 Gladiator Offhand. Weighing in the weapon stats, I think that Fury edges out S2 by a small margin. Executioner is also what I'd put on it Grats.

He uses S2 in the MH.

And concerning the MH - OH discussion on Execuctioner. I still think that the Mainhand is the favorable hand to have it on, because the hit that does proc the enchant does not benefit from it, so having it on the OH means your MH will be the first to profit from the Exec proc. and that is a good thing ^^

I assume you mean 'offhand'?

Tried this out, it does NOT work. 0 Stonebreaker Totem procs off flame shock.

However, if you do just the opposite

/cast Flame Shock
/equip Stonebreaker Totem

and

/cast Stormstrike
/equip Totem of Astral Winds

It does proc off of flame shock.

Despite the order, it seems as though the totem will effect whatever ability it is equiped after.

Please confirm this.

The reason that it works for casting is that it is equipped when the spell is cast.

I think Ilmatar was trying to set up macros that equipped the totem for the next action, rather than the current one.

In either case though, I think it'll be a bit hard to manage efficently.

Thanks very much Malan! You can actually do that on your own by setting the alpha level to .01 (or maybe 0 works). I forget how I wrote it, but I'm pretty sure I put in the facility for people to turn it off when watershield was active, and only display full red when you don't have the buff.

I am feeling incredibly weak as an enhancement shaman. I have read the first post, taken notes, and considered the aspects of my class and role before beginning to gear myself. I have been using Enhancer with my personal AEP values and Pawn with the Low Raid values to determine upgrades and gear choices. The problems comes down to the fact that I do not put out nearly the same amount of DPS as other melee DPS in my Kara raid group; unfortunately I cannot discover the true heart of the problem.

I think that it is either, 1) My off-hand weapon is so horrible that it is ruining my overall DPS; or 2) My hit rating is in fact too high and I have neglected the importance of Strength/AP and Crit.

Considering the first point I am currently using [Fist of Reckoning] as an off-hand. I know, I know, I can hear the groans now, but I have had extremely horrible luck in the level 70 instances, and I feel too weak to attempt a heroic or even find a group for one. My goal is to finish grinding out the honor for [Gladiator's Pummeler] so that I will be wielding two of them. I am hesitant to enchant either weapon before I know it will be worth the focus and money I am going to spend. I am incredibly confused because Enhancer is showing that the Pummeler is great for MH but I will get more benefit from [Fool's Bane] in OH. Is this because Fool's has more passive stats and Enhancer is ignoring the DPS difference?

For point two I simply think my hit rating is too high and have a negative effect on my DPS. I'm at 200 hit + 9% from talents but my Attack Power and Crit Rating seem to be suffering. I hit often but I hit for very little. Is this a combined problem between my weapon quality and my hit rating?

I am not asking for a gear check & personalized advice, but my guild has made it to Aran in Kara and I feel that I pale in comparison to our DPS warrior. I bring buffs to the table for him but I think my lackluster DPS is a huge detriment.

OH difference is less than 2 dps which makes it so small difference once you also add AP to it. The stats on Fool are way better and therefor it is better weapon than S1 gladiator for OH. If you have Fool's you can use it over S1, but it is one of those will it drop and will i get it things.

If you cant get epic red gem [Netherbane] is better than [Thori'dal, the Stars' Fury] for my stat weights(I weight wDPS too. 0.85* 4.24ep for off hand) And dont bother with executioner before you get very high end gear. Its very easy to test with Yo's sim which one is better.(waepons or enchants)

Crusader is a pretty inexpensive enchant - under 100g for the mats on my server. Being a bit thrifty I've used that as a temporary enchant while waiting for better weapon to drop (but I didn't bother with enchants at all on blue weapons). Your hit is pretty high - you could try for a different trinket to replace the +hit one. Your dps will improve dramatically as you continue to raid and gain upgrades, just hang in there!

Birr,
I struggled the same way when my guild was in your spot. As Adlwow said, crusader is an easy enchant to farm mats for and get on both weapons. Also, look into getting the Hourglass of the Unraveler from the second boss in Black Morass. When I finally got it, I was noticing a huge DPS increase from the three procs (at least at that point in content). Hope that helps.

Thank you for the replies, everyone! I'm 2/3 finished crafting the Ebon Netherscale set, all I have left is the chest piece so my funds will be going in to gems and enchants for that; Crusader looks like it will be my best bet until I am able to spend the money on Mongoose. Gear > Epic Flying in my case.

And yeah that hit trinket definitely needs to go. Temporus should be going down a lot more often as I help other people get keyed for Kara. /fingercross

That point is moot since Fool's Bane is MH only.

I had this same issue in Kara until I could obtain enough Primal Nethers for my 1Hed Axe I made from smithing.

Shamans have very little in weapon choices from PvE content until Al'ar and Netherbane (Your hunters will hate you btw) or conversely Rage/Fury from ZA. Your best bet is too keep trying for that S1 Pummeler and as was mentioned earlier, Crusader is a very easy enchant to buy, especially if you know someone that farms LBSes for the AH.

An interesting note I didn't know about, thanks for that.

How exactly do you mean "manage efficiently"?

If the totem equipping works as Tzenes states, then no thought is required on the part of the shammy to have stonebreaker equip for every shock, and to have increased WF damage for at least some of the rest of the time. All it takes is to macro the equips to your shocks and SS.

The main issue I can see with this at the moment is the possibility of it resetting the swing timer.

I am also interested in this,...I used dragonstrike/syphon currently. I am not so much concerned with the uptime of the haste proc as I am with the difference in the speed of it being 2.7, RT 2.6 and Syphon 2.8. Right now, it seems like I get slightly more OH procs than MH procs for WF with the dragonstrike. I have heard that having RT main hand will give you more MH WF procs, but this is something I want to hear about before burning dkp on both the RT and another Syphon.

Anyways, my dps can be very sporadic because of this. For something like Terron Gorefiend, I will range from 1100 to 1500 dps week to week, without any real gear changes and in the same group with the same group setup.

So ya, anyone here go from a dragonstrike to a RT and/or Syphon MH with preferably a Syphon OH?

If you feel your DPS is weak...

1) As was said early, get your enchants. They can and will make a huge difference.

Beyond that your hit could use to be cut in half, and that will award you a sizeable increase in AP and Crit. Don't worry about getting 'rogue' or 'feral' gear either. If your getting hit, your not doing your job right anyway (and if your DPS is so low you worry, then your not causing enough threat to pull aggro). Get the items that will maximize your role in the group DPS/Support. Also, watch your attack cycle. Alot of Enhancement Shamans seem to miss the standard rotation.

Stormstrike then Earth Shock, then Flame Shock. Rinse and repeat. Make certain your Earth Shock is taking advantage of the Stormstrike debuff, and your not wasting a charge of it using Flame Shock. Or conversely, if you don't have a raid with Curse of Elements, you can just keep an ES cycle between Stormstrikes.

You might want to look into some of the craftables too, just going into/conquering karazhan means that Drakefist/Dragonmaw is very very good mainhand for you (same with the axe equivalent). It takes a ton of work, granted, but I haven't even looked at another mainhand since I got mine. The haste procc (especially with 'on hit' trinkets like the Hourglass) can be huge.

Also, even if this doesn't help as much as you would wish. Remember the reason that DPS warrior is doing so well, is you

That only works for spells with a cast time, as the totem equips *while* the spell is casting. For shocks, the totem won't equip in time to effect it, or will lag your shock while it is equipping beforehand. You could concievably micro it by mashing an equip macro when you have 2 seconds left on your shock, shocking, and then unequipping. But it's really not worth it, and would likely hurt your dps by messing with your GCDs a bit.

Dont forget the S1 gear is now available through honor and is reasonably easy/fast to get. It is a good jump start for kara as well.

I have had some bad luck on weapon drops, so am using a Emerald Ripper OH still with flametongue (I decided to get my S1 armor b4 a weapon). I have Dragonstrike as MH. My dps could definately be better, but isnt bad. So dont even though you know a slow OH is your goal, dont be afraid to take a kara dagger, especially if its just going to be sharded anyway.

I generally fall in at 6-7 on the dps charts. But more importantly, i try to stay alive. I am grouped with 4 rogues generally when we raid 25 mans, and my totems and Unleashed rage have made a huge difference for the overall raid dps. I count that as part of my dps (value). I guess I made my goal as more of a support role, than trying to top the dps charts at this point.