could anyone just tell me if i should stick to my season 3 enhance gear or get the gear from TK/SSC? plx plx

Masso read first page. Then use loot rank. Or you can even run YO's sim for your own stat values. Or if you wanna be real lazy use MAXdps.

You're right, it shouldn't depend on your gear. And oh look, Yo has added this functionality. Thanks man.

I took the default stats, BUT added 20 shocks/2 minutes.

Wait 0s: 1147
Wait 1s: 1155
Wait 2s: 1160
Wait 3s: 1161

So hey, best case scenario you get 1.2% additional DPS by waiting your stormstrikes.

However, let's consider if you missed a SINGLE shock as a result of it:

Wait 3s, 19 shocks/minute: 1150.

You just lost most of your benefit.

One of the best things a shaman can do to optimize his DPS post-MQ is to hit shocks on the cooldown. If you're able to do this while also sleeping SS when you can do so without affecting your WF cycle, well you're in a hard to simulate but probably best-case mode.

Do you think that a shaman could offtank a raid in Kara or did this only work for you because you are very highly geared and it was only a 5-man, granted it was a heroic? I ask because I never really want to turn my enhance shaman into a resto or elemental spec, but having an option to be a tank some of the time would be interesting and offer some variety.

Well, I think a Resto-Shaman would be able to tank better than Enhancement (assume the Enhancer didn't take Anticipation). Thanks to Earth Shield and a physical Shield your survivability would be much higher (not to mention there's lots of very good healing mail, as opposed to mostly DPS leather). The biggest problem would be aggro. WF on your weapon, Frost Shock every chance you get... I would still think it's a bad idea unless your team is overgeared and your tanking the little things. Like some of the random little guys near the Philanthropists.

In pvp gear I can offtank some of Kara, but there are certain mobs that hit entirely too hard to be tanked by a shaman. This isn't really any different from the heroics. Resto isn't better for tanking because of Shamanistic Rage, losing parry, and having to heal yourself (can't dodge).

Nice post, I hadn't done the math on this myself, but have been timing my SS outside the cooldown for a while now. Often at the cost of a perfect shock rotation.

I'm going to try stormstriking every cooldown unless I just shocked for a bit and see if it's any noticeable improvement. Should be easier to maintain at least.

You won't be able to tank boss level mobs due to crushing blows. Also, in a raid, you're more likely to have the buffs/debuffs that boost raid damage so much -your dps would have to hold back. You need a 'proper' offtank like a DPS warrior for bosses anyway, there's little reason to take over on trash (though it can be done). The closest you'll likely get to offtanking on bosses in Kara is probably Morroes or Wizard of Oz.

Kael'Thas!! I always used to pull aggro on the mace and just tank it rest of the way.

But let's be honest, tanking should be the last thing a shaman should do.. we don't want blizzard to get the idea people actually want these useless talents so they never change them.

We only run Kara atm, so it's not as bad as one would think. I would prefer the rogue to be combat swords, but he likes his daggers. Basically since Kara is only a 10 man we compile the best synergized groups possible, there arent any other better options. Other grp is spriest, 2 pallies, lock and the other tank (warrior). Had to put the warrior somewhere and the feral druid just got more benefit from, and benfitted more to, the melee group.

Wasn't in the main post and I would prefer not to scroll thru 250 pages of text to find it...

Is there an AEP value agreed upon for the Relentless Earthstorm Diamond?

Or is this able to be calculated? I'm open to the fact that it's crit based and the value can vary, I just want to be able to figure it out.

Run Yo's with RED proc enabled. Note DPS.
Run Yo's with RED proc disabled. Note DPS.
Estimate AP you must add to make low DPS equal high DPS. Run Yo's with AP added and proc disabled.
Refine estimate and repeat.

(Commonly agreed upon value is 50-80 AP, I believe that the low number counts just the proc and the high number counts the agility as well.)

Thanks. I was debating on using a [Coif of the Jungle Stalker] instead of my cyclone helm but didn't want to drop the meta.

Another, faster way to get EP for RED proc (or any other proc or item) is:
1) Run sim with RED proc "on". Note DPS1.
2) Run sim with RED proc "off". Note DPS2.
3) EP of RED proc for person without RED = (DPS1-DPS2)/(DPS value of 1 EP from second sim run)
Add your EP value for agi on RED to get item's tota EP scorel.

Will do.

RED ep value go down a bit becouse you have to use two blue gems. If there isnt hot socket bonus its -22ep for epic gems and -17.6 for normal gems.

At high end there's a blue socket open in chest and belt. Both of these items have either AP or agi/crit socket bonuses.

Items that come to mind...

[Belt of One-Hundred Deaths]
[Belt of the Black Eagle]
[Bloodsea Brigand's Vest]
[Midnight Chestguard]

then there's always these...
[Bow-stitched Leggings]


Personally I prefer to meet socket bonuses as long as it's crit-agi/str-ap/hit. I know some shamans that socket for all +Str and have maybe 30-50 ap more than me, but they've also got 3% less crit than I do. I like having a balance of stats.

I don't understand what you're trying to say. Are you agreeing with me? Are you saying that I wouldn't lose much EP if I kept the socket bonuses in those items? If so, then I believe we're in agreement. If not, to each his own I guess. Like I said earlier, I like balancing my stats.

OK, I think I'm mildly retarded, because I can't work this out and I've read everything including the front pages thoroughly.

I'm an Orc, I have a [Netherbane] and a [Rising Tide] both mongoosed. The other night a [Syphon of the Nathrezim] dropped, and because I have a few T4 armour pieces I didn't want to put myself rock bottom of dkp behind all the Hunters and rogues and wait an enternity to upgrade armour and ,therefore , passed on it.

I also explained I'd lose my Orc racial on the [Netherbane], bit of a cop out really.

So, have any Orc's compared these 2 weapons, what is the overall dps difference. Simulators are blocked for at work, but I guess the proc makes it impossible to measure, but I'd like some opinion/input please.

It's playing on my mind that maybe I should have just grabbed it, have I passed on a minimal or major dps upgrade?

Pretty sure Netherbane is better than Syphon for orcs by a decent margin. The orc racial is really good, so that wasn't a cop out. Expertise blows every other stat out of the water once you're in T6 quality gear(can see its ridiculous EP value based off of my gear on the first page.) I'd have used 2x Rising Tide if I could have back when there weren't S3 axes. It's easy to figure out which is better using the simulator though, so I'd just run that when you're not at work.

Don't forget [Shifting Tanzanite]

sorry if this asked before.

i was wondering if it was possible to make a macro that resets when either of these criteria are met: target switching, out of combat, you press shift together with your macro hotkey

and that build into

#showtooltip
#show Stormstrike
/atack
/castsequence reset=10 Flame Shock, Stormstrike, Earth Shock

thanks alot

Yo!, love the simulator, as do many others. To continue it's growth, do you think you could change the Lootzor export string to use Loot Rank instead? For us challenged folks it also shows the optimum gemming, telling us if socketing str gems all the way through or actually hitting the slots will benefit us overall. And best of all, it's not a dead site.