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Old 10/15/07, 6:16 PM   #3871
Xoya
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Xoya
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I modified your thing a bit, SentinelBorg:

The mp5 on this item is a waste of item budget for enhancement shamans. With the new talent Elemental Focus, the new and improved Water Shield and the powerful mana-regen ability Shamanistic Rage, an enhancement shaman will not go out of mana easily, even with a full shock rotation, some heals and totems. So please remove the mp5 and put more melee-focused stats on the item instead, such as agi, str, hit, crit, expertise, or armor pierce. Expertise especially would be a very beneficial stat since we have no talents which help with dodge/parry reduction, unlike rogues or warriors.

T6 set bonuses: The 2pc setbonus is very weak. Shamans already have 3 talents (Elemental Focus, Mental Quickness, Concussion), that decrease the mana costs of shocks. Also the 4pc bonus is the only non-scaling (%) T6 4pc bonus in the game.

Ideas for improvement:
- remove the 2pc bonus
- move the 4pc bonus to the 2pc slot
- make a new 4pc bonus (for example, 2% more AP from "Unleashed Rage")
Thoughts?

Edit to add: I also submitted this on PTR. For anyone curious how to easily do this, just use AtlasLoot or having someone link a T6 piece to you. Alt-left click the item link, then click "fill out a survey". Bam.

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Old 10/15/07, 6:24 PM   #3872
Rob
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Burning Blade
Originally Posted by SentinelBorg View Post
Yeah, would be a really good bonus and worthy of T6. As I see, you have an US account. Would be nice, if you could copy my post from here to the US shaman forum. I'm sure, if we just "whine" enough, they will react.
My "friend" got me permabanned from the official forums since he was using my account to troll

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Old 10/15/07, 6:33 PM   #3873
Tambard
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Zul'Jin
I didn't notice this question or discussion on it browsing back, but I was curious if it would be worth macroing my shocks to equip the Stonebreaker's Totem, Shock, the re-equip the Totem of Astral Winds. I am working on getting the badges for it, but I was curious if anyone else had tried it or would be able to try it and see if it's worth the effort.

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Old 10/15/07, 6:36 PM   #3874
Krom[Fenris]
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Can you change relics in combat? I'd say no, but other classes equip weapons in that slot, so not sure.

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Old 10/15/07, 6:42 PM   #3875
Ilmatar
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You can change Relic's in combat, changing them triggers the GCD (only in combat) but changing them does not respect the GCD. To put it another way, you can macro together a spell with a cast time (Such as Healing Wave) and then equip the Totem of Healing Rains, and it will work, because you are equipping the totem after the spell is cast (during GCD) but the spell is going to use the totem when the spell is finished casting.

Combining this totem with a shock won't work, because the shock is instant, so you'd need to equip the totem before casting the shock, and that swap would incur the GCD, making the shock unable to cast until the GCD is over.

Edit:

It may be possible to use both totems if you have a rigorous shock/SS rotation that you adhere to. You could do:
/cast Stormstrike
/stopcasting
/equip shock totem

For SS macro, and

/cast Flame Shock
/stopcasting
/equip Totem of Astral Winds

I think this would be a major pain in the ass, though. I have my healing spells macro'd with totems, and it is actually not as awesome as you'd think, because if you happen to miss the GCD, you end up incurring an additional GCD (from the totem swap) and not casting the spell.

Another possible solution is a plugin (similar to ItemRack's trinket queue thingy) that would let you specify spells, and hook into events like casting-completed, casting-begin, etc, but I think it would still run into GCD issues.

Last edited by Ilmatar : 10/15/07 at 6:51 PM.

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Old 10/15/07, 6:43 PM   #3876
ChaguraED
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Originally Posted by Krom[Fenris] View Post
Can you change relics in combat? I'd say no, but other classes equip weapons in that slot, so not sure.

I am Fairly sure you can swap totems in combat, as many resto shaman talk about swapping their healing totems based on the type of heal they're casting (chain heal vs healing wave)

If this is correct then that would certainly be a good macro to run

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Old 10/15/07, 6:46 PM   #3877
Tambard
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Zul'Jin
Originally Posted by Ilmatar View Post
You can change Relic's in combat, changing them triggers the GCD (only in combat) but changing them does not respect the GCD. To put it another way, you can macro together a spell with a cast time (Such as Healing Wave) and then equip the Totem of Healing Rains, and it will work, because you are equipping the totem after the spell is cast (during GCD) but the spell is going to use the totem when the spell is finished casting.

Combining this totem with a shock won't work, because the shock is instant, so you'd need to equip the totem before casting the shock, and that swap would incur the GCD, making the shock unable to cast until the GCD is over.
Ah, thank you.

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Old 10/15/07, 7:49 PM   #3878
PhyerFly
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Just wanted to drop by and add that Enhancement Shaman will have two new slow off-hand weapons options in 2.3 that are worth noticing. The following weapons were originally main-hand only and will be changed to one-hand when the patch hits.

[Fool's Bane] (from Illhoof in kara)
Fool's Bane - Items - World of Warcraft

[The Decapitator] (from Prince in kara)
The Decapitator - Items - World of Warcraft

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Old 10/15/07, 7:58 PM   #3879
Paradox
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can you add to the first post the best epic gems to use from hyjal/bt?

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Old 10/15/07, 8:55 PM   #3880
Rhagok
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Blackrock (EU)
Well by the time you are there you should probably know which gems to use, not that it would be the same ones anyway (all strengt, strength + crit ... )

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Old 10/15/07, 9:21 PM   #3881
falonub
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Ysondre
Originally Posted by Paradox View Post
can you add to the first post the best epic gems to use from hyjal/bt?
Same as regular but the epic version,

[Sovereign Shadowsong Amethyst]
[Bold Crimson Spinel]
[Inscribed Pyrestone]

If people have a hard time figuring that out :P

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Old 10/15/07, 10:39 PM   #3882
panny
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Originally Posted by Azaranth View Post
Disquette: I use Power Auras with 2 notifications.

1. Notify me when I have "Invigorated"
2. Notify me when I do not have "Lightning Shield / Water Shield" - combat only

That really does the job nicely. If you incorporate this into DisqoDice, be sure to have an off switch DD is a nice mod though. I have a hunch that I'm going to start mixing Fire Nova Totems into my dps rotations, since I'll have a ridiculous abundance of mana sitting around unused. You might eventually end up adding a Fire Nova Totem Cast / Cooldown bar below the shocks bar. At this point, I'm just playing Aztrodamus and looking into the future though.
I use Power Auras for alot of things:
-Invigorated
-Proc buffs such as Haste, (old) Hourglass, with timers so I know if it's worth popping Trinket/Bloodlust/Drums/Pot/what-have-you
-To check if I am in range of my buffing totems
-For debuffs such as MS (PvP)
-For HoTs ticking on me so I know I don't have to waste time healing myself
-To show if I don't have an elemental shield of some kind
-To show if I don't have a Shout while in combat

I can't recommend it enough.

On the subject of relic switching: it's not worth it for a melee class. Since switching relics will invoke the GCD, it means no auto-attacks then. It's difficult to time the GCD in between two swings, especially with all the haste effects we have occuring. It might actually completely reset the swing timer!

Malan: one thing you might want to add to the Stonebreaker analysis in the first post is that the observed uptime is around 50% with a 10 second cooldown between procs. It might be difficult for some to digest the results just based on the maths without the underlying premises. And then we'd get two months of people posting in this thread asking which is better: Astral Winds or Stonebreaker.

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Old 10/15/07, 10:44 PM   #3883
Cruelty
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Proudmoore
Im thinking on what spec would be the best overall dps for a raiding enh shaman once 2.3 is live.

SO few things. On the talent calc make some mental changes (at work so didnt look for a 2.3 talent calc).

2Handed weapons in 2.3 is Focused casting- Chance on Crit shocks cost 60% less

Mental quickness is the same as well as in 2.3 with 3 points -30% of your AP = spelldamage and healing

First is whats commonly known as the suicide spec:

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Pros-

Increased fire totem damage
Faster shocks 5 sec shocks down from 6secs
Increased shock damage (5% increase)
Slightly cheaper shocks.

Cons vs enh resto spec (below) -

3% less hit
No extended totem range
Normal cost totems
Standard Heal speed
no healing focus


Enh/Resto spec

Talent Calculator - World of Warcraft

Pros -

Faster Healing wave
Cheaper totems
increased totem range
Healing focus (lol 14%)
Chance to hit increased by 3%

Cons Vs Suicide spec (1st link) -

Slower shocks
Standard fire totem damage
Standard shock damage & cost

Now my thoughts are that the suicide spec will push out more damage with the improved shocks and fire totem damage, especially with the new mental quickness.
My main concern is the 3% to hit is a big loss that would nerf melee damage to counteract the extra damage gained from the better shock/Fire totem damage.
Mana should not be a issue with focused state and Shamanistic rage.

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Old 10/15/07, 11:02 PM   #3884
Neithan
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Panny as I cba to set up PowerAuras myself, would you be so kind and put a config file somewhere to download?

Thanks!

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Old 10/15/07, 11:23 PM   #3885
panny
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Originally Posted by Neithan View Post
Panny as I cba to set up PowerAuras myself, would you be so kind and put a config file somewhere to download?

Thanks!
Sure, I'll do it when I get home if the server's aren't down tonight (in 7 hours or so).

Really though, it's not hard to use, and you won't figure out what my auras are configured for.

Last edited by panny : 10/15/07 at 11:36 PM.

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