Yes i know that base agi is different, 61, and gives 4.11 crit. I'm trying to calculate the bonus one and still coming up with 1% extra crit or so.

Is the tooltip saying you have ~1% more crit than you're calculating you should have, or 1% less? Does your calculation include Kings and you don't have it when you're checking your tooltip? Also, check your crit rating to crit% calculation and make sure it's exactly 22.08 rating per percent.

I haven't actually checked mine to see if I can reproduce the exact crit% displayed by the tooltip. Maybe I'll check when I get home.

[Drums of Battle] gives also spellhaste and I think bloodlust could lower GCD after 2.4 too. These effect would be very minor but better than nothing.

The only reason the change to the GCD would matter would be if you were shocking or dropping a totem prior to using a stormstrike, but if stormstrike was that close to coming off CD in the first place, you probably should have held off on any other actions to wait for it.

I suppose that it could allow you to refresh totems slightly faster while hasted though.

Thanks Rhaegal, I left the crit ratio that i calculated by the ingame numbers, and with the 22.08 works fine, Also an extra field had agi in it where it shouldnt have been messing the calculation up.

Cheers.

Faster gcd also yield better uptime for grace of air when twisting. 10s - gcd / 10s = 85%max but after 2.4 it could be 90% when bloodlust + drums are up.

Nice work, looks good.

However I was reading it over and spotted a mistake you have made:

This is not correct, rogue MH attacks do not provide any addtional energy gains, thus WF procs do not either. They are a plain white attack.

Thought this needed correcting because it could lead to a serious misconception of the "benefit" WF is to rogues.

Oops yah that should have been noted as opportunities for additional sword spec procs.

Given heroic gems will no longer be unique at patch it might be worth adding them to the gem section in the OP.

Enscribed Fire Opal - Items - World of Warcraft and Shifting Tanzanite - Items - World of Warcraft seem the best to me. The blue matching one can be particularly handy for hitting a socket bonus for good boost on some items.

OK, so I was kind of intrigued by the fact that Yo's "best" list included a [Talon of the Phoenix] as the "second-best" weapon after S3. I did a bit of comparison using the weapon EP values we derived a while back, and I think he's probably right. Using those "weapon EP" number's, here are the two lists I got, all the way down to S1 weapons as a "baseline/any idiot can get these". Do note that this analysis does not take into account the differences between a 2.6 and a 2.8 weapon, but I can't be arsed to run every possible weapon through the sim. I did cheat a little bit and since I knew Dragonstrike/Dragonmaw were better than the axes for non-orcs, bumped them up (since I didn't do the math on the haste proc), and since I knew that Syphon was basically the same DPS as Rising Tide, I bumped it up (since I didn't do the math on the shadow proc). The weapons are listed in order from highest DPS to lowest DPS, and when there was a lower than ~5 EP difference I listed the weapons on the same line:

Main Hand:
S3 Weapons (e.g. [Vengeful Gladiator's Cleaver])
[Talon of the Phoenix]
[Rising Tide] / [Syphon of the Nathrezim]
[Dragonstrike] / [Wicked Edge of the Planes] (orcs)
S2 Weapons (e.g. [Merciless Gladiator's Cleaver]
[Netherbane] / [Rod of the Sun King]
[Rage]
[Dragonmaw] / [Black Planar Edge] (orcs)
S1 Weapons (e.g. [Gladiator's Cleaver])

Off Hand:
S3 Weapons
Rising Tide / Syphon of the Nathrezim
S2 Weapons / Netherbane
[Fury]
Rod of the Sun King / Fool’s Bane
S1 Weapons

Makes me wish I had a Talon of the Phoenix, just since it looks so cool and actually is great DPS

http://elitistjerks.com/539182-post4574.html
http://elitistjerks.com/621082-post6619.html

Can I sneak in an "I told you so"?

In related news the revised proc modeling of [Golden Dragonstrike Breastplate] looks to be a bit conservative and even in that state it has a small advantage over Syphon/RT/Talon. So it's reasonable to suggest it is the best choice of non-S3 weapons.

I've tried asking this question on the PvP Shaman thread, but didn't see a for sure answer. I'm hoping for a solid 'it works this way' answer.

I'm trying to get clarification on the Purge mechanic when attempting to use it on either a NPC or PC.

When you cast Purge, it can dispell two enemy buffs. Is each chance to dispell rolled seperately? IE, If I'm attempting to purge a mob or a enemy in PvP, can I cast Purge, have one buff resist the purge, and the other buff be cleared? Or does a resist on one buff resist the purge to both buffs?

I know I've looked through a lot to try and find this but if I missed it I'm sorry. Thanks!

I'm fairly certain that Purge is all-or-nothing. It's not the buffs that are resisting the spell, it's the player/NPC, and the target should only have one chance to roll a resist.

I run through all the weapons I have access to(I don't pvp) whenever my gear changes a bunch or the sim gets a significant update, unfortunately I haven't recorded the results. The last time(2 more items from an ideal set) it came out DS>Talon>Syphon>RT all separated by a handful of DPS.

I think estimates based on the EP of the items are OK for the most part but not taking into account weapon speed seems to be a problem since it has a significant impact in the sim. As an example setting it up with Syphon/Syphon stats then dropping the MH from 2.8 to 2.6 results in a ~20DPS loss.

I was going over the OP to read through the changes made. The link to Disquette's findings on 36% chance for wf to proc while DW is dead

This is actually a reasonably easy to recreate scenario.
Grab a priest/druid/mage/pally, whoever can cast 2 or more buffs on themself.
Take off as much of your spell hit as you can.
Hopefully your buddy has the talents (if available) for XX% resistance to having buffs dispelled.
Challenge them to a duel.
They should have at least two purgeable buffs on themselves.
Purge them
Count how many were removed (or use an addon that announces for you).


That said, I've finally broken down and done some BGs on my shaman, I have seen several single buff removal purges while the target in question had a great many buffs still on them. I've seen at least as many times when I purge nothing. This is all adhoc information though. I don't have a screen cap of me purging some priest and only getting his shadow prot buff, but leaving fort/spirit/innerfire.

I guess the forum archive purged it. I'll have to reword that section now.

How do you feel using 4/5 T6 over "best in slot" items. I was considering going that route in the future, but i simply cannot tell if it would be worthwhile.

To be honest, I've tried both gearsets on different lockouts and the difference is relatively small. Sometimes I didn't even notice anything different. For this particular parse I min/max though so I switch items.

[Skyshatter Pauldrons] -> [Shoulders of the Hidden Predator]
[Skyshatter Tunic] -> [Midnight Chestguard]
[Skyshatter Grips] -> [Fists of Mukoa]
[Skyshatter Pants] -> [Bow-Stitched Leggings]

I like to look good, so that's why I wear T6! To be fair, non-set probably is a little (notice little) more dps, but at the cost of looks and stamina. Personal choice imo, the difference is so marginally small.

This is incorrect. Thundering strikes is included in the Crit % on the paperdoll.

I don't agree. I inserted Sebudai's T6 EP values and got this list: Loot Rank (couldn't remember RED's value so I just made something up).

In the three most important armor slots, head, chest, legs, you lose a crapload of EP going for T6 over best in-slot.

Edit: Numbers show that you lose a whopping 181.21 EP by using T6 over the three best head, chest and leg items. That's the ~ EP value of shoulder/gloves. So in theory, you could take those three best in-slot items, and un-equip gloves and still be tied with T6. Funny thought.

When I did a check it was something closer to 90 on RED for my gear level.