Uh, no. Call of Thunder increases the crit strike chance of LB and CL. Its not a typo, its a reference to a bug where Call of Thunder was giving incorrect values of crit on the last rank.

Well, that's depressing that we don't get any real impacts. Obviously, the only spec I've ever played is enhance thanks to this thread!

The bug that has been in the game since release day as far as I'm aware, or at least the 1.X shaman "patches"

The lack of changes is very disheartening.

We don't even want much as a class/spec, in PvE, we are doing fine. Just maybe some PvP love or some better itemization.

I don't even see any Sunwell weapons for us, unless one of those hammers will be slow and mean.

I think there is one axe among them, praying it will be good one Also kinda disheartened to see that flurry bug only mentioned under warriors.

Bink: Not that it makes much difference, but I'm pretty sure the 6% has been there since shamans have had talents. Granted, that's only what, a couple of weeks earlier than release day, but hey, anal is the new hip, right?

Regarding Sunwell weapons: the picture on mmo-champion shows 4 one-hand maces and 3 fist weapons, any of which could possibly be useful to us. That pic shows 0 one-hand axes though, and 4 one-hand swords and 7 (!) daggers. Yay.

Ah I knew I was missing something on that patch note.

As far as changes, this isn't much of a boost, but I'm going to dump my elemental points into ancestral healing for arena. Less chance SR is dispelled...I guess that is a win.

Oh, i thought that 2h axe was 1-handed

Sigh, i don't get what blizzard item balancer is thinking First with Illidan they give him Legendary DW and then a dagger? Instead of that useless dagger (as i bet all rogues want legendaries) could have put an axe easily. Now this with no 1h axe

I am having horrible trinket luck.

Right now I am using Bloodlust Brooch and Bladefist's Breadth.

I just got the Romulo trinket and was wondering if it would be better dps than the newbie Breadth.

Romulo's trinket sucks balls. It's never worth considering for an enhancement shaman. [Bladefist's Breadth] is good to start. but you should try to get [Hourglass of the Unraveller], [Abacus of Violent Odds] or [Darkmoon Card: Crusade].

And reading the first post should give you this answer, to...

Regarding the patch notes, i will do random vashj runs then again every week, going straight for her. Chest, finger, mace and "our" belt are worthy that effort of ~ 1h raiding (include 2 vorthex, selling for ~ 2.000 on our server should pay the repair bill for all attendies.

I have crappy luck on hourglass and abacus. I know the romulo trinket sucks, but the breadth isn't even on the list so I wasn't 100% sure.

Okay, thanks Myul. Just D/E the vial glass =/

How do these scale with EP? I know my expertise AEP value is over 3.1, so 44 expertise would be over 130 AEP mark, haste a lot lower, but haste trinket has 440 AP maximum proc that we could fully stack it up in 10 seconds without any problems... Proc, slam stormstrike, some lucky WF proc and it could be up in 7-8 sec... worst case scenario, thats 10 seconds full uptime of 440 AP, and 1-10 would be average, so around 220.... means it would give somewhere around 330ish AP on average during proc, only thing we should calculate is proc rate...

My haste is (from top of my head) rated at around 1.7 EP (might be wrong), so 54 should be around 90 EP, + average on that proc... They seem about equal on first glance, but then mobs cant parry from behind etc, so expertise might lose a bit here....

Expertise rating score of 3+ EP is assuming that you are behind the boss already. It doubles when fighting trash from front. All 3 trinkets are very good. The one with expertise and a proc will beat DST if ppm is 1+. Other 2 come ahead of Berserkers Call (most likely) so as soon as you will get one it will end up in your trinket slot.

I'm glad there are no axes seen yet!! Orc Racial is imba.

This is not the place to whine/complain about 2.4.
Take your tears elsewhere.

They both have similar EP values (118 versus 120) but the bloodlust allows you to control when you get that burst of AP. My personal preference would be to cascade the Zerkers/Bloodlust in fights where Heroism plays a large part of your dps (Rage, Anetheron, Gorefiend, RoS) and use the crusade for extended fights where you're likely to see more than 2 of the two minute cooldowns coming up (Council, Al'ar, Vashj, Kael, Bloodboil etc).

If the stacking mechanism of the proc is the same as DMC:Crusade, then it will take a little bit longer to ramp up to 440 AP, as extra swings from WF don't add stacks.
The expertise "tanking" trinket has a higher EP value than Beserker's Call... very interesting indeed.

That expertise "tanking" trinket would be downright awesome as a secondary PvP trinket (i.e. in addition to your [Medallion of the Alliance]). To me, expertise seems like the best use of PvP item budget we could ask for -- ensuring that our Stormstrikes and Windfury procs connect is key, and the parry reduction aspect would be get used more than it is in PvE.

Courtesy WoR:


3 new pieces added to T6, obtainable from either Sunwell or Badges (we don't know yet).

Boots with an [Inscribed Pyrestone] come in at ~221 EP, ~20 EP above [Softstep Boots of Tracking].
Wrists with a [Bold Crimson Spinel] come in at ~166 EP, ~10 EP above [Insidious Bands].
Belt with a [Bold Crimson Spinel] comes in at ~235 EP, ~5 EP below [Belt of One-Hundred Deaths].
If we consider that the [Fists of Mukoa] are about 20 EP better than the [Skyshatter Grips], you would easily be better off to wear T6 to grab the 4-piece bonus, for ~70 EP.

Sure but which of the original 5pc would we wear for the 4th? The helm works if you've had crap luck on the Council helm or are still in line for the CvoS. But after that?

[Skyshatter Grips] is the best downgrade, as I tried to imply in my post. They're only a 17 EP loss from [Grips of Damnation], or a 14 EP loss from [Fists of Mukoa].

[Skyshatter Pauldrons] would also be worth switching to, as you lose only 18 EP there from [Shoulderpads of the Stranger].

Everything else is a much larger difference. Of course, as you say, if you haven't gotten a better helm, that's always an option.

Caveat theorycrafter: These numbers are with my own personal EP values and may not apply exactly to everyone else, but I would expect the results to be generally the same.