Enhance Shaman: The Collected Works of Theorycraft, Vol I - Page 278

• Disquette · 02/10/08, 11:39 AM

Originally Posted by Myul

13:11:22 called in wowhead_item::start:324 Item not found!

(307) = [Surestrike Goggles v3.0] (309) < [Cursed Vision of Sargeras] (335) < [Duplicitous Guise] (377)

... and more item links/rankings

Very nice of you to put the list up, as I wasn't looking forward to taking the time to manually input all the values and calculate. Thanks much!

Pitbuller · 02/10/08, 11:58 AM

[Righteous Weapon Coating]
This might change what air totem rogues want.

Acks · 02/10/08, 3:23 PM

I calculated ~T6 level gear EP for the new Jewelcrafting neck (didn't see it listed, forgive me if its already been posted).

Link: http://static.mmo-champion.com/mmoc/...elringneck.jpg

Choker of Endless Nightmares (161.49) < Hardened Khorium Choker (187.28).

Let me know if im wrong here and ill amend the post.

Krom[Fenris] · 02/10/08, 3:51 PM

Guess my plans to go for the 4pc t6 bonus were short-lived. Doesn't seem worth sacrificing the large gains you can get on the hand or shoulder slot. And I'm a bit depressed that my Cursed Vision has been dethroned already. I <3 the blindfold!

Weem · 02/10/08, 4:52 PM

Rejoice!!

http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/ptr...gvengeance.jpg

Mox · 02/10/08, 5:18 PM

Originally Posted by Weem

Rejoice!!

http://www.worldofraids.com/2008/ptr...gvengeance.jpg

Was about to post this, excellent news for us. There is also a matching MH (apparently).

Does anyone know if that ancient bug with the +hit talent not working with fist weps still exsists?

Malan · 02/10/08, 5:24 PM

That's news to me, I've never heard of that bug.

Illundai · 02/10/08, 5:41 PM

Holy shit, I just shouted in joy at the sight of that offhand.

Perfect speed, high DPS, high top damage and argueably the best stats for a t6 shaman on it. Not to mention 2 sockets, with a decent socketbonus and a BLUE socket! Something to dump a blue gem in.

Jesus, finally they make a Shaman weapon... Rising Tide was a start, but meh. Although, again from trash.. so perhaps lower iLevel again than KJ weapons, thus inferior yet again?

Razzan · 02/10/08, 6:13 PM

I felt relieved with that new fist weapon , it looks awesome. Could it be that blizz made this fist weapon ''set'' primarily for fury warriors tho?

◊ Rob · 02/10/08, 6:40 PM

Originally Posted by Razzan

Could it be that blizz made this fist weapon ''set'' primarily for fury warriors tho?

I don't see how that's relevant or how any attempt to answer it would be anything other than speculation. However, I'll say that clearly the weapon is only useful for Fury warriors, Enhancement shamans, and trispec Hemo rogues.

Illundai · 02/10/08, 6:40 PM

Unless something drastically changed, Fury Warriors still prefer fast offhands over the slow offhands even after the WW change?

Kirion · 02/10/08, 6:47 PM

Originally Posted by Razzan

I felt relieved with that new fist weapon , it looks awesome. Could it be that blizz made this fist weapon ''set'' primarily for fury warriors tho?

There are 3 fist weapons weapon models files, set and offhand.

Originally Posted by Illundai

Unless something drastically changed, Fury Warriors still prefer fast offhands over the slow offhands even after the WW change?

While i've never played DW Fury, from dps warrior thread it seems that at t6 level warriors prefer slow offhand.

Illundai · 02/10/08, 6:54 PM

Hm, our 2 Fury Warriors used the 1.5s offhand from trash until they both a Warglaive, maybe I should've shouted at them :o

◊ Rob · 02/10/08, 7:00 PM

Originally Posted by Illundai

Unless something drastically changed, Fury Warriors still prefer fast offhands over the slow offhands even after the WW change?

Slow is slightly better due to the WW change. Before that, it didn't matter at all. Even now, it's nowhere near the benefit we see from using a slow OH.

Joy · 02/10/08, 7:03 PM

I am really quite shocked that there are upgrades in almost every slot (pleasantly surprised).

I haven't seen a new Totem though - seems bizarre that I will be using a Badge item with my Sunwell gear.

dr_AllCOM3 · 02/10/08, 7:12 PM

Originally Posted by Razzan

I felt relieved with that new fist weapon , it looks awesome. Could it be that blizz made this fist weapon ''set'' primarily for fury warriors tho?

I'd like to have that weapon

. Slow is nice with good stats.

Krom[Fenris] · 02/10/08, 7:54 PM

Honestly, I wish they'd remove racial abilities that affect weapons. I hate feeling like I'm hindering myself by not using an axe.

Low Life · 02/10/08, 8:56 PM

From the point of view of a shaman who's probably not going to be stepping into a 25-man dungeon before Wrath of the Lich King, the 2.4 patch seems to be bringing a lot of nice gear. The leather shoulders from heroic Kael'thas are better than Bladed Shoulderpads of the Merciless from Kara (about 150ep with my values vs 140ep), the BoE ring seems to be the best one before the TK version of Kael (around 120ep), and if I didn't do any horrible miscalculations the BoE leather gloves come out at incredible 250ep, which is a lot more than the ep of the best gloves in the game currently on my values, Gloves of the Searing Grip at 160ep. Add the possibility that the Surestrike goggles V3.0 schematic won't be BoP and I'm getting a huge boost in my gear. Then again, people might be charging ridiculous amounts for Sunmotes which would slow the gearing down, but that's only a minor problem.

Mkael · 02/10/08, 9:03 PM

You can forget about getting any Sunmotes anytime soonish, with the amount of upgrades available from them id say itll be sometime before they are sold if ever (wotlk will most likely hit before that).

Jyca · 02/10/08, 9:06 PM

Originally Posted by Razzan

I felt relieved with that new fist weapon , it looks awesome. Could it be that blizz made this fist weapon ''set'' primarily for fury warriors tho?

I don't see how it's possible to make a weapon more desirable for a fury warrior than a shaman other than slapping a class restriction on it.

Razzan · 02/10/08, 9:12 PM

Idd, class restriction would totally screw us over. I dont want to see that when 2.4 hits the live servers tbh

. Anxious to see the Mainhand version of that fist weapon aswell.

Malan · 02/10/08, 9:26 PM

Hey seriously. Quit the 2.4 talk unless it specifically relates to Enhancement issues, ie, gear analysis. Take your warrior talk, your drop rates, etc etc to the 2.4 thread.

Pebblecrusher · 02/10/08, 11:22 PM

Been reading as many of the posts on this thread as I could, but still a bit confused about a weapon choice. Read one post that states that The Decapitator is a good MH and Fool's Bane makes a good OH. Not a problem, I can see that. But I also have Malchazeen. Using Fool's Bane MH and Malchazeen OH yields more AP while only reducing the upper range of dmg by 20 or so. Then use WF and FT.

Agree?

Malan · 02/10/08, 11:28 PM

You need to re-read the entire section of the first post on Windfury.

Mkael · 02/10/08, 11:29 PM

Run Yo's sim instead of asking here, I can bet its been asked before so search would also be a good idea but you really should get used to running the sim since the EP values will change over time and you shouldnt rely on the ones listed in the OP other than as a general guideline.

Oh btw: to really consider using fast OH with FT you really should have a 1.5 or faster weapon. Malchazeen is def. too slow to really make this an option.