Enhance Shaman: The Collected Works of Theorycraft, Vol I - Page 327

Aratheon · 11/15/07, 1:34 PM

Originally Posted by Aegospotami

According to your own Theorycraft, hit rating is a stat that is not to be prioritized, while Strength should always be chosen over attack power.

No matter how many of your buddies make posts trying to defend you, the fact is that you've got an inscription with AP and Hit rating over an inscription with Strength and Int. Because you claim +Hit doesn't bring anything to the table, and none of us are having mana issues with 2.3, we're left with the fact that you chose an AP inscription over one with Strength.

If you didn't need the +Hit, why did you go with the AP inscription? You can't seem to explain that, and your buddies who are defending you can't explain it either, so the fact of the matter is that to any objective observer, it's clear that despite your own Theorycraft, and despite the fact that you try to make people seem foolish for asking about hit rating, you chose +Hit at the expense of another stat.

Pretty hypocritical for a guy who tries to make other people look stupid for asking about hit rating, isn't it?

Please, if you want to troll: WoW Forums -> Shaman Discussion that's your board.
It's not that complicated:
34 Attackpower and 16 Hit-Rating = 34EP + 22,4EP = 56,4EP
17 Strength and 16 Intellect = 37,4EP + 0EP = 37,4EP (with kings)

justinr · 11/15/07, 1:39 PM

Deleted: Other people have already addressed what I posted.

Malan · 11/15/07, 1:40 PM

Did you get a temp ban for trolling this thread previously? If not, your current posting trend is probably leading in that direction.
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Shabadu · 11/15/07, 1:41 PM

Originally Posted by drats

I also noticed that totem names are still bugged. Instead of reading 'Drats Fire Nova Totem does X' it reads 'Fire Nova Totem's Fire Nova Totem does X'. My magma totem was doing ~180 damage per pulse for Hyjal trash, and I'd love to see that added to the dps meters. < snide remark about blade flurry >

I think I recall reading somewhere that this functionality wasn't planned until WotLK. Just checking the WWS from the bosses last night were I was the only one dropping searing totem though, it adds a good ~70-100dps depending on the encounter. My searing did around 30k damage on Illidan, nothing too trivial. I dropped one during a fel rage on Gurtogg too, crit for nearly 1k 0_o.
Searing Totem VII - WWS

GamingManiac · 11/15/07, 1:44 PM

Yeah, this patch has been pretty much amazing. Not only am I not having threat problems anymore (used to be capped on Gurtogg and Teron, but was able to go all-out last night), but I also managed to save the raid twice with a timely SR during the last Fel Rage (and 10 dead) and a "last man standing" effort on RoS. Not to mention Doomfire, Azgalor's Rain of Fire, etc etc. The list goes on, and the only time I mana potted all of the last two nights was on Mother Shaz (lol @ Fatal Attraction while SR is up

).

Also, "Nikos/Aegospotami," I couldn't help but try to armory you and you seem to have an outdated/nonexistent character. Might want to update your profile?

Lucentia · 11/15/07, 1:54 PM

(the following is in response to Aegospotami and rather off topic of the thread, so go ahead and scroll past it if you don't care)

I don't really get it....

what is so hard to understand that 17 * .2 = 3.4 (extra AP from str when you have BoK) = 3.4 more EP for 17 str vs 34 AP

+hit (while not prioritized, still has an EP at 1.34 for entry raid - and it only gets better as your gear gets better) 16*1.34 = 21.44

3.4 is not greater than 21.44

+int on the other hand has no weight attributed to it, however I suppose it could, since technically it does increase spell crit.. sooo lets see spells (aka shocks)make up, what, like 8% of our damage. At 70 shaman have 80 int per 1% spell crit, so each point of int is going to increase your total dps by .001% (not pullin that out of my bum either - 0.0125% crit(per int) x .08(% total damage) = .001

Now if we say 1% crit will increase your total damage by 1% (not perfect but if i recall its pretty close) and crit rating has a weight of 2, 1% crit would have a weight of 44.16, x.001 = .04416 EP per int. (pretty obvious why we give it no value)

now.. i don't care how stupid you are, but i think if you can figure out how to post a reply, you should be able to tell that 3.4+ 0.707(hey look 16 int is almost 1EP)= 4.107 < 21.44, and if you can't make sense of that, i don't see how you have any right to even be on these forums, reading or posting.

(again sorry for posting off topic, but hey at least i did a little math pointing out the insignificance of int.. which.. really didn't need to be proven)

DeeNogger · 11/15/07, 2:08 PM

WF is a situational totem at best.

Disquette · 11/15/07, 2:15 PM

Originally Posted by DeeNogger

WF is a situational totem at best.

I agree. About the only time I use it is when I'm playing WoW, and that's probably only 5 to 10% of the time anyway.

Stopokingme · 11/15/07, 2:37 PM

Am I the only one annoyed by the sound Shamanistic Focus makes? It kinda surprises me that I have seen no bitching about it so far. Anyone know a way to turn it off?

Illundai · 11/15/07, 2:56 PM

It wouldn't be annoying if it didn't proc every sec I guess :P.

Lucentia · 11/15/07, 3:14 PM

Weird... last night I didn't hear anything when Shamanistic Focus was going off... I am sure that now that i am aware that there should be a sound, I will hear it and be just as annoyed as everyone else.

Sufferings · 11/15/07, 3:18 PM

Its pretty bad...I have my game sounds done kinda low, but I know other melee in guild were complaining about it like crazy on Tuesday night in BT, lol. Hopefully they just take out the sound and not just nerf the spell.

Igniter · 11/15/07, 3:20 PM

Originally Posted by berg

SR has clearly changed the game for us. Threat is a total non-factor and our dps got boosted (conveniently hidden from meters)

These are instances where I have been truly grateful about Shamanistic Rage.

EoS - P1 tanking. P3 with the seethe/ae spam is also so smooth now.
Gurtogg - if you get focused or hit by poison
Mother - Ports are completely harmless now.
L5 beams from council robot bastards.
Rogue focus, blizzard, flamestrike on council.

It is amazing. Shamanistic Rage has to be one of the top 2-3 PVE skills for any class in the entire game. But most importantly our mana burden is so low now that we can save SR to use it reactively.

Threat is still a factor, on nearly every fight, at least for me. My gear is pretty average at best for a 9/9 guild, and I have to cyclone WF/TA and almost always have to hold back a ton on Teron/RoS/BB.

Shabadu · 11/15/07, 3:25 PM

Originally Posted by Igniter

Threat is still a factor, on nearly every fight, at least for me. My gear is pretty average at best for a 9/9 guild, and I have to cyclone WF/TA and almost always have to hold back a ton on Teron/RoS/BB.

RoS and Gurtogg I had significant threat issues, but that's just about it anymore.

BoinKlasik · 11/15/07, 3:26 PM

Originally Posted by Illundai

It wouldn't be annoying if it didn't proc every sec I guess :P.

best thing is my raid seems to hear it more than I do.
"Yo, Amy stop critting so much"
"That, my friends, is the sound of mana efficiency!"

gotta agree w/ the SR change hype, given how slowly I run out of mana now, it is now much more up to me when I use SR, I am also glad to hear it works on Council trash l5 beam, i was hoping to test it yesterday but we haven't gotten to council this week due to our own stupidity on bosses this reset.

edit: ugh @ Bloodboil. To prevent having to worry about the threat cap and instead worry about stuff like the breath I simply dont do ANYTHING before the first fel rage phase, that tends to be a big enough lead for me to at least only melee during all other non fel rage phases, its annoying but I have to worry less.