First I've heard it mentioned.

Been running sims today and was getting normal 1.9ish values for haste. Are you sure you didn't enter a strange value for haste %? Maybe missed a decimal or something.

I've been gettng easily over 1800 DPS on brut, occasionally breaking 2k DPS with a full twist + 2 shocks cycle. Call of flame is pretty nice damage buff, was getting 115 DPS from searing totem alone. Will upload some WWS tomorrow, had ret pally + MS warrior in group.

It had a typo so maybe a good thing I didn't :P Plus its new thread and I wasn't comfortable posting there yet.

Because our damage isn't normalized.

Damage per hit is calculated by taking the DPS of a weapon and dividing that by the weapon's base speed. Faster weapons do less damage per hit, proportional to their swing time.

damage per hit = weapon dps * weapon spd.

When an attack is normalized, a weapon that hits half as often hits twice as hard to balance it out. Thus, our autoattack damage is normalized.

AA dps = damage per hit / weapon spd

However, Stormstrike ALWAYS hits at the same rate -- once every ten seconds. A faster weapon doesn't hit more often, and as a result can never recoup the damage lost by being faster.

SS dps = damage per hit / 10s.

Windfury is also not normalized. True, you will proc WF a bit more often with a faster weapon, but you can never proc it more than once every three seconds. Thus, there's a hard limit to the increase in the number of hits over time.

WF dps = 2x damage per hit / (3s + <some lag, shortened by weapon speed>)

Getting a faster mainhand would help get a few more mainhand procs, but you'll be losing damage on both WF and SS and if you simulate it you'll notice that the effect of increased MH procs doesn't offset the effect of lost damage due to our un-normalized attacks.

Your main hand weapon will naturally proc a bit more than your offhand, because the mainhand is always evaluated first after a Stormstrike.

Yeah, I still have the window with my values open and I've checked every tab multiple times now. I've input 3.93% haste.

Also, I'm getting really low values for expertise rating, which I assume is because I've gained a bunch of expertise lately. However, it seems weird that the value would drop so dramatically. I'm not capped yet, and it seems like the last few points should at least be in the same realm of value as the first few. Pre-Shard of Contempt/T6 bracers my EP value for expertise was 3.18. Now it's coming in at 0.77.

A new version of Enhancer was just released, but as far as I can tell, it does nothing, and the AEP setting on it is gone as well, though he says in the "News" part that has now split into another mod(which the URL to doesn't work).

Heres to hoping its back soon 'nuf.

Aye, I downloaded it and promptly lost all of my totem timers as well. =(

I was getting the pposite sebudai, really high values (like 1.9 for crit, 1.8 for haste).

First, a link to a useful post: http://elitistjerks.com/699120-post122.html

The conclusion tunah came to about [Shattered Sun Pendant of Resolve] was that it has a 45 sec internal cooldown, with a 15% proc rate. More importantly, that thread has a link to the library he wrote to take as input data from the new combat log, and output the information we're looking for.

Anyway, my shaman is currently sitting in Dire Maul whacking one of the spirits there, and will be until morning. I'll see what I can do about either running that on my log or making a buddy of mine (who is significantly more well versed than I) do so. Worst case, I'll PM the author and see if he can run it real quick on my data, since he's already been doing work on one of the necks.

I confess I'm a bit intimidated by over 300 pages of posts. If I'm repeating, I apologize. That said, I recently got a Breeching Comet drop on my alt shammy. I'm planning to get the badge fists of brutality when my server builds the anvil, so I was crunching some numbers on a cheap temporary enchant for my new axe. I didn't find any EP values for enchantments in a brief skim of this thread, so I ran the numbers myself, and then got a bit carried away:

Interesting finding on Striking on MH... With Potency, did you add kings for the t6 ep? (2.2 for str there as opposed to 2 for the other two?

I lolled

you want every possible swing to have teh chance to WF and it has a 3 sec vd. read the first post or dont post again imo.

EquivalencePoints can be downloaded at World of Warcraft Addons - WowAce.com or using WowAceUpdater

Hope it helps

The defualt values from the high level Enh Shammy set are kinda wierd maybe it might be better to import your personal values. Haven't had a chance to really tweak and test it to be honest.

I apologize in advance for the newb question, and I have already used the search thread feature but couldn't find what I was looking for.

I always just took Sebudai's t6 EP values as my own when planning out what gear I wanted, but lately have been more interested in messing around with Yo's a bit myself, sooooo...

When you input your MH and OH dps you just do the actual weapon DPS, not the value calculated after Haste and AP correct? It's what I have been doing so far, and the numbers seem in line with what I expect, just want to make sure I'm not doing it wrong.

Aye standard weapon speed. Haste and Flurry are added elsewhere (Flurry is enabled by default).

Slightly more Re: [Shattered Sun Pendant of Might]

WWS of "Arcane Strike" ability from last night's quick required-bosses-in-Kara run: Wow Web Stats (ignore the wipes... we were running with 2 healers, both of which are alts of people who'd never healed a raid before... I never thought I'd have to explain to someone that they can drag raid frames from the fault UI out onto their screen...)

90 total hits of Arcane Strike, 30 crits = based on melee crit rate. Crits for 2x, but since the max non-crit is 404 and the max crit is 831, I suspect that it's affected by [Relentless Earthstorm Diamond]. Will know for sure after messing around with my combat log from last night's Dire Maul marathon.

Amusingly, I had zero dodges or resists, but it was parried twice on trash, implying that it's subject to parry/dodge mechanics instead of resists, which is consistent with its crit mechanics. However, it is, interestingly enough, subject to partial resists, which I saw 9 of last night.

Dire Maul data pending, doubt I'll have any more info until I can parse it tomorrow.

Still wrong Oh strinking value.
"Also + damage enchants dont suffer OH penalty so strinking for oh is bad as its for mh."

Hopefully I can stop being wrong and go back to learning.

I just picked up the [Fist of Molten Fury] to complete the set for looks. We had a fun little jaunt into TK for shoulders and I decided to try it out (unenchanted). Testing was just to see if the set bonus proc was worth the 100 or so dps loss of switching to a fast/flametongue offhand. It isnt. It procs often enough, but the damage is miniscule, worked out as under 1% of my damage. Still running the instance, so no WWS yet, but can post later if anyone is interested.

Hi all

Is there any reason why [Vanir's Right Fist of Brutality] is no longer listed as a reccomended MH weapon?

I see the offhand is still stated as a good choice on the updated front page. - Is this an oversight or is there more to it?


Cheers.

R

Haven't gotten around to it, I'm in the middle of a busy period at work, my wedding is in 22 days, and I'm still trying to raid.