You could send a mail and point them in this direction? Email is at the bottom of the page.

On a side note. Long time 'listener', first time 'caller'. Keep up the great work!!

Now my WF3sec addon can be downloaded from Ace2 site
It has some new stuff:
- SS cooldown timer next to WF timer
- Some DPS Buff timers
- Realtime Melee Stats showing
- OMG, you can now move bars by /wf3sec command
- I added a fix for a high ping WF cooldown overlapping

PHP >> all

Could you post a (small) screenshot of the addon in use?

Yeah, i noticed that after posting this, and sent an email this morning.

Hedin - neat stuff. The other bar I'd find useful, if you chose to add it, would be a 10 second count down of WF totem. I've started twising WF(rank1) and GoA, and looking at Yata timers to see when I need to redrop. If it could be incorporated into your addon, I'd probably use it.

In any case, thanks for making a helpful mod for the community.

First off, (Semi)long time reader, first time poster.

I don't really have any questions or new information, just wanted to say thanks for putting in the time and effort to discover the potential behind this under appreciated class for all of us who aren't as gifted with the time or brain power.

Thank you, Jesus!




And I will now part you with the invitation to check out my armory and laugh at my offhand (This is a pre-emptive measure to let you know that, yes, I know its worthless).

I can't wait until tuesday (280 points to go!). Also, 2 weeks straight of Mana-Tombs every day without an Astral Winds....WTF is up with that? I have a semi regular group that laughs at me every time....its becoming disheartening.

Forgive me if someone else has said this - I read a great many pages but may have missed it.

The complete guild claims that Haste effect is = 2.2 AEP. But that Slow/Slow gives the best DPS for the Enhancement Shaman. I am currently wielding the Fool's Bane (w/ Crusader) as MH, and my offhand changes between a Runic Hammer (w/ Crusader) or the Blackout Truncheon.

Now my question comes down to 2 facets, overall DPS and raid bonus.

Does the 132 Haste Rating from the Procc of Blackout Truncheon outweigh it's low (1.6) speed? Or would I still achieve higher DPS keeping my Runic Hammer as my offhand?

Second, does the constant effect of having Unleashed Rage on the target for other DPS sources outweigh the personal gains I would get from solid offhand WF procc's?

I'd like to know what the community here thinks on this issue.

No, the damage gain from moving to a slow off hand is ridiculous. Pre 2.1 the truncheon was an awesome weapon for us. Post 2.1, its just too damn fast.

As for your other question I'm not sure what you're getting at. What does your off hand have to do with your UR uptime? With a 30% crit rate (buffed) you'll rarely see UR fall off.

2 timerbargroups: WF+SS and DPS Buffs; Melee Stats window with AP, Crit, Speed and Damage of MH and OH.

Hmm in that case Hedin could you make the DPS Buffs an optional display? Its just duplicating information I already have from other addons (and from the default UI for those who swing that way)

Oh and I'm adding your addon to the front page.

Edit - in other news, it turns out that a forum post does indeed have a size limit. We just hit the 25,000 character limit on the first post.

What I was trying to communicate was the idea that having a fast weapon, that can procc and get even faster - it will strike for more crits, and make certain to keep UR active. Will keeping that active 100% (or nearly) result in a larger increase for the raid than the slow offhand would give me?

Beartank + 1 Rogue + Prot Warrior + Hunter and myself in my normal group.

Our guild is currently working on Kael'thas, and considering that Hyjal/BT are now coming close I decided to check out the various toys available from both instances. Looking at the weaponry available only the Siphon and the axe from Najentus really sprang out. Though looking at the blacksmithing mace, it makes me wonder if any of those two are superior or at the very least close to Dragonstrike.

My gut feeling says that the haste proc from the BS mace makes it superior to both of those, but my gut feeling has been wrong before so I just want some confirmation first before expending the money and time needed to level up BS for it.

Long story short, is Dragonstrike indeed vastly superior to both those BT weapons or not?

Crit rating get's up to about 29% with full raid buffs in effect.

29% Crit should be enough to keep up Unleashed Rage nearly all the time with two slow weapons. I'd use the Runic Hammer for sure.

I've measured the uptime for the Dragonstrike proc at about 40%, which would give it value equal to 85 passive haste rating. A weapon would need 170 ap worth of stats to match it. The +3 dps would cancel some of that out, but not enough.

Yep, I am planning on doing so... but it's realy hard to see if Invigorated or Palo-buffs are up without my Buffbars :-)

Not sure if its possible on this forum, but it may be worth asking for one of the mods to merge in a new blank post under the 1st one, i've done it on one of old guild forums so I would assume its still possible.

In regard to syphon MH/OH v's Dragonstrike/Syphon, I think I would still like to personally try syphon in both hands, because the proc is 20-30 (24 average) extra unmitigated damage per swing on the proc.

Anyone have dual syphons yet? and if so can they both proc or does the second proccing just refresh the buff?

with the way Dragonstrike is able to refresh itself to maintain a slightly longer uptime, especially with DST and Mongoose' help, i doubt double syphon will beat it

this is all talk though, please let us know your test results

I got double syphon this week. If the other hand procs the leech, all it does is refresh the buff. Over an entire Council kill it only added up to 4700 damage.

I just can't see the Syphon proc as being any good, judging from a WWS of our last BT, out of 5,740,397 damage it contributed just 23,606, 0.4%. As far as I know because of WF we get fairly equal MH/OH proc rates so even with 2 of them it would still likely be <1% of your total damage. I'd wager the extra hit rating on rising tide or the haste proc on Dragonstrike both easily outweigh it.

Any chance for a way to easily turn off all the bars/information except Invigorated/Shamanistic Rage/Bloodlust/Elemental Shield?

Those are the only pieces of information I have a need to see on my screen, all the other bars just get in the way of the information. While handy, I don't really need to see when flurry/etc is up when I'm not testing mechanics.

Oh, and the actual WF timer of course. I'd even be happy with just showing the WF timer and nothing else.

I remember reading somewhere (probably in this thread) that the buff doesn't stack twice. (Also heard it didn't refresh till it wore off, but I know that is JUST a rumor)

Nvm, as I left the page open and your question was already answered.