Yes i know that base agi is different, 61, and gives 4.11 crit. I'm trying to calculate the bonus one and still coming up with 1% extra crit or so.

[Drums of Battle] gives also spellhaste and I think bloodlust could lower GCD after 2.4 too. These effect would be very minor but better than nothing.

The only reason the change to the GCD would matter would be if you were shocking or dropping a totem prior to using a stormstrike, but if stormstrike was that close to coming off CD in the first place, you probably should have held off on any other actions to wait for it.

I suppose that it could allow you to refresh totems slightly faster while hasted though.

Thanks Rhaegal, I left the crit ratio that i calculated by the ingame numbers, and with the 22.08 works fine, Also an extra field had agi in it where it shouldnt have been messing the calculation up.

Cheers.

Complete restructure of the OP is complete. Its in wiki format from the (unleased) wiki forum right now, I'll change it around to have bolded headings, etc in a little bit. Added some new stuff to it as well.

Need some input on what to write up for Flametongue/Frostbrand and Stormstrike. ie, whats useful to put there, any calculations that should be shown, etc.

Nice work, looks good.

However I was reading it over and spotted a mistake you have made:

This is not correct, rogue MH attacks do not provide any addtional energy gains, thus WF procs do not either. They are a plain white attack.

Thought this needed correcting because it could lead to a serious misconception of the "benefit" WF is to rogues.

Oops yah that should have been noted as opportunities for additional sword spec procs.

OK, so I was kind of intrigued by the fact that Yo's "best" list included a [Talon of the Phoenix] as the "second-best" weapon after S3. I did a bit of comparison using the weapon EP values we derived a while back, and I think he's probably right. Using those "weapon EP" number's, here are the two lists I got, all the way down to S1 weapons as a "baseline/any idiot can get these". Do note that this analysis does not take into account the differences between a 2.6 and a 2.8 weapon, but I can't be arsed to run every possible weapon through the sim. I did cheat a little bit and since I knew Dragonstrike/Dragonmaw were better than the axes for non-orcs, bumped them up (since I didn't do the math on the haste proc), and since I knew that Syphon was basically the same DPS as Rising Tide, I bumped it up (since I didn't do the math on the shadow proc). The weapons are listed in order from highest DPS to lowest DPS, and when there was a lower than ~5 EP difference I listed the weapons on the same line:

Main Hand:
S3 Weapons (e.g. [Vengeful Gladiator's Cleaver])
[Talon of the Phoenix]
[Rising Tide] / [Syphon of the Nathrezim]
[Dragonstrike] / [Wicked Edge of the Planes] (orcs)
S2 Weapons (e.g. [Merciless Gladiator's Cleaver]
[Netherbane] / [Rod of the Sun King]
[Rage]
[Dragonmaw] / [Black Planar Edge] (orcs)
S1 Weapons (e.g. [Gladiator's Cleaver])

Off Hand:
S3 Weapons
Rising Tide / Syphon of the Nathrezim
S2 Weapons / Netherbane
[Fury]
Rod of the Sun King / Fool’s Bane
S1 Weapons

Makes me wish I had a Talon of the Phoenix, just since it looks so cool and actually is great DPS

http://elitistjerks.com/539182-post4574.html
http://elitistjerks.com/621082-post6619.html

Can I sneak in an "I told you so"?

In related news the revised proc modeling of [Dragonstrike] looks to be a bit conservative and even in that state it has a small advantage over Syphon/RT/Talon. So it's reasonable to suggest it is the best choice of non-S3 weapons.

Absolutely! Sorry that I've missed those posts in the past. This thread moves so quickly and while sometimes I can kind of stay on top of it, there are other times where I can't check in for 5 days and I'm bound to miss something.
OK. Then it would probably make sense to put the T3 BS weapons, the BT weapons, and Talon on the same level. In that case, the list looks pretty similar to what's in the main post right now but with just the Talon moved up as you have suggested already. Your posts suggest to me that maybe you've gone through and ran all the MH weapons against each other with your own stats -- is that the case? If so, care to reproduce the list for us? I know that this all might seem a bit unnecessary, but it seems to me that having a list of weapons for the main post (like a list of trinkets) is useful due to the complexity of many of the procs, weapon speed interactions, and the relative difficulty of summing weapon DPS EP and item EP, if for no other reason than to reduce the number of "what weapon is best?" questions. (Though those have been reduced in days past, so maybe the main post is already doing enough on this front.)

I'm fairly certain that Purge is all-or-nothing. It's not the buffs that are resisting the spell, it's the player/NPC, and the target should only have one chance to roll a resist.