Tornhoof

Yes, Yata has no support for totem twisting, probably I will never include it. I will probably only add some basic support for ticks, but not yet sure.

http://code.google.com/p/wowequipoptimizer/

 

• Disquette

Well, I greatly prefer good mods to do specific things instead of one that tries to do everything. I didn't know you did yata. That's pretty cool :-) I switched to that from totemus due to big freezes (maybe .5 to 1 sec) anytime I used a totem that wasn't the default.

 

Malan

By the way, since the lead itemization designer is now playing a shaman, someone needs to figure out how to point him to this thread so he can see how jacked up it is.

Shitting up every single thread on EJ since '06

 

Stigmata

I assume he is in the US which means if/when he posts it will be on the US forum, so one of you guys will have to point him.

 

Itzelsnitch

Could it be possible that WF cooldown would be reset when switching weapons, so that switching weapons in between attacks would provide a DPS increase? :P

 

Malan

Even if that were the case you'd incur a GCD every time you swapped, and I'm sure that would be just one more thing they'd fix like the WF 5/4 workaround.

Shitting up every single thread on EJ since '06

 

david0925

I doubt weapon swapping will "reset" WF proc timer due to the fact that windfury cooldown are tied to your offhand even when your main hand procs it.

Assuming that it does reset the cooldown, doesn't swapping weapon incure not only a global cooldown, but also reset your swing timer? By the time you get the next swing off, isn't the 3 second cooldown already over, AND you lose out on your next (or next couple) of white swings?

 

Malan

That's true, it would reset your swing timer as well.

Shitting up every single thread on EJ since '06

 

Aett

One thing I've noticed as far as totem twisting goes is that using the macro in the OP really, really helps in Hyjal for trash. The Crypt Fiends have this annoying habit of eating totems as soon as they go down and it really helps to not have to think about whether windfury is up or not. Plus the totems sort of move with you too

 

drats

Just for the record, reduced time on grounding totem is an essential PvP talent for me. Combined with 5s shocks and proper positioning, I can avoid over half of a casters damage. I'm honestly saddened by the number of shaman in the post that claim to be PvP oriented but then say they don't need this talent. Guardian totems should probably look more like : Extends range of totems to 25/30 yds, decreases cooldown of grounding totem by 1/2s.

I must be the only person in the world that likes Elemental Devastation. Combined with the Darkmoon: Wrath card it's a pretty neat talent. However, it would probably be more useful if it increased the raids damage instead of just the shamans. That would make it useful for elemental shaman also.

Edit: If we only get the tier 1 talents changed and nothing else, I'll still consider this a victory.

 

Malan

Drats - that's fine, but since Kaplan stated that Enhancement is not a PvP spec (of course he also said we're not a raid spec ) and since most shaman that are PvPing are elemental or resto, the grounding totem talent probably doesn't need to be a Tier 2 Enhance talent. Not to mention that nobody in their right mind gives a shit about Stoneskin totem or Windwall.

Shitting up every single thread on EJ since '06

 

• Shabadu

When I pvp'd with my raid resto spec, I took 5/5 ancestral and 2points imp grounding. Taking 3/3 elemental warding would save just about as much damage and be more important in pve too.

 

Stigmata

My post is based PURELY from a PVE perspective.

 

drats

If it seemed that I was specifically talking about you, then I apologize. The devs are obviously still a little confused about exactly what they want each spec of shaman to do. All of our information is valuable, but it's apparent that some of the talents that I like aren't as appealing to others. I hope they improve on the lesser used talents rather than remove them completely (With the exception of shield spec. I'm going to send them a case of beer when they remove that pos talent.)

 

Malan

I'm ashamed to say that when I was but a wee shaman on my way to 60, I had 5 pts in Shield spec.

Shitting up every single thread on EJ since '06

 

• Juice

That was back before DW, I'll wager, and it made sense to increase block over a pittance of mana. I did the same thing, since I found quality 1 handers easier to come by than 2 handers on my way to 60.

 

Unaz

I used it when I was resto at 60, as Ancestral Knowledge was almost completely worthless then (it finally became viable when we hit 10k unbuffed mana), It definitely helped a little bit on some of the big pulls in AQ40 (Twin Emps trash with the spawns zerging the raid and usually going for healers in between fears).

 

Handratty

I read the first pages or so and could not find an answer to my question. So, I apologize if this has been covered and would appreciate if you could point me in the right direction.

How does Stormstrike (SS) affect your sustained dps?
Moreover, when is the best time to use stormstrike?

To this point, I have just been mindlessly spamming SS whenever the cooldown is up. However, it occured to me that this strategy might not be the best idea with all the different factors that affect Windfury.

 

Malan

I believe that some sim runs that Tornhoof (maybe?) might have posted in the last 10 pages or so concluded that waiting for the cooldown before using SS would in theory increase dps by 1-2% or something like that.

Shitting up every single thread on EJ since '06

 

◊ Rob

General consensus (and my personal practice) seems to be that if there's less than about 1.5-2 seconds left on CD, you should wait, but if there's more, you should fire it off. I'd probably also lean towards SSing earlier if we had an elemental shaman or boomkin in our raids (we don't).

 

• Juice

And I think, roughly speaking, SS generally accounts for 10% of overall damage output.

 

Ilmatar

I agree with Rob.

I do run with a Boomkin (sometimes two, we like our druids) and so I try to get my FS->ES rotation timed so that I don't use Stormstrike charges. I find the WF cooldown bar is a really good 'hint' for when to SS before shocking, or when to shock before SS. It's not like an auto-shot bar, though, where you need to look at it. For a while I was delaying SS too frequently with it, and my DPS suffered.

 

Hedin

My WFtotem is almost ready :-)

WF3sec Ace2 - Shows WindFury and Stormstrike cooldowns.

 

Malan

Yah that's the real kicker. If you're in a raid with someone that can make use of the debuff than you need to have it up there every 10 seconds on the dot. If not, waiting to boost your DPS a bit is a good idea.

Shitting up every single thread on EJ since '06

 

Hedin

I slap SS when WFCD or flurry is off...

WF3sec Ace2 - Shows WindFury and Stormstrike cooldowns.