Well hard to say what he is getting at, I believe the 2ppl reference is about the group setup (otherwise it doesnt make any sense at all) 2 tanks, lock, pala and somethine else most likely so he believes the WF is a waste since only the tanks get it. However since the RL put you in the tank group for Threat I dont see why he is arguing with you, no other totem provide it in the same amount.

26.5% or 28% is needed to not miss while dual wielding (depends on who you ask ).

26.5%-9% (talents) = 17.5%

17.5*15.8=276.5 hit rating to maximise your hit.

Or 19*15.8=300.2 hit rating required.

So don't worry, without stacking for it (using hittrinkets and gems) you won't ever reach the cap.

4 piece t5 is very strong, but if you can get your hands on ZA loot and all the random pieces around in tier 5 instances, you shouldn't worry about it.

/golfclap at even bothering to read the OP

For you to not have T6 and have that much hit sounds like you've either gemmed for some, or have chosen pieces specifically for their hit rating. And no i cba to look at your armoury page.

The T5 enhancement set doesn't suck at all. It's actually pretty damn good, and the difference between T5 > T6 isn't as big as you may think, especially when they put mp5 on it >.>

That's not really true. Your hit decreases from most of your gear as you progress further into content, it's just made up randomly by huge chunks on specific pieces. Remembering back I had quite a bit more hit than I do/did simply because it was included on almost every piece of dungeon gear.

T5 shoulders are also quite terrible, but the rest of the set isn't bad.

Sorry, but i really cba to look through a hundred pages to see if someone has already posted this...

But is there any Meta value for Relentless Earthstorm Diamond to put in Loot Rank?


Edit: Oh.. and Poofypajamas, i use Enhancer to do that, it's available through Ace, so download the thing called Aceupdater, u can get it there and also use it to update most of ur addons

I don't know if this helps, but I'll tell you what I told my guild about this. I've done my research on gear; before I even step foot in an instance, I know what every boss in it drops, what items are upgrades, what items are the best on the list of upgrades, and what I might be able to get elsewhere that would be as good or better. I don't roll/bid on items that I'm not 100% sure I want. As an enhancement shaman, I will always be competing with either rogues or hunters. Period. It's (generally speaking) one or the other for each individual item. I can either compete with rogues for the items that are better, or I can compete with hunters for gear that might be best in slot for them, but I will most likely vendor in a week or two once the rogues have the item I really want.

Since then, I generally pass hunter gear to hunters unless there's none present or the item is best-in-slot for me as well, and compete on leather, instead of the other way around. It results in less wasted gear, less enchanting/gemming costs on my part, and ultimately better guild DPS. Your guild just has to trust that you know best when it comes to your gear. It's generally accepted in my guild that I know itemization better than Blizzard seems to, so it's not really a problem for us.

I use Enhancer. There are links for it floating around this thread, or you can get it from wowace.com I think. It does a lot of other handy things, like remind me when water shield isn't up, too.



Also, I cba to answer a question that you could easily find the answer to by using the "Search this thread" feature.

Well, you're up a certain creek, mate -- the mail gear at that tier is terrible!

My advice to you is simple: get your set pieces, get the shoulders off Nalorak, get the best weapons you can and spend the rest of your effort farming for badge gear. Master Assassin's Wristguards are cheap and way better than anything you'd roll on. Same with Ninjah's Tabi Boots.

Myul, you've spun this yarn before, and you're comparing apples to oranges. Best in slot at T6 is not the same as best in slot at T4. Mail doesn't catch up to leather until you get to T5.

You're also comparing set pieces to non-set pieces...which have a lower item level. Try comparing mail to leather wrists, belts and boots; the difference is not 5%.

The blue Talbuk Hide Spaulders and Fel Leather sets, gemmed with BLRs, will out-dps every non-set mail piece out of T4 and some of the set pieces, too. It's garbage, and for shamans who want to progress, not being able to roll on leather can be a big setback.

Ok, so I've searched for "Relentless Earthstorm Diamond meta value", but it didn't give me any clear answer...

Also tried with "Relentless Earthstormd Diamond Loot Rank meta value", only showed me what i had already written :/

Any ideas?

I modded CooldownTimers2 to provide that information, I also modded it to show hidden cooldowns on abilities/trinkets f;r better coordination of boosts.

Its fairly easy todo if you have the time to browse the codebase and know some rudimentary lua coding.