Here is yet another Java simulator.
[Crazy Shaman's DPS & AEP calculator (c) Yo
It has to run on any comp that has Java virtual machine installed.
You can calculate your expected DPS and find your own local AEP values.
It covers the following mechanics:
1) Normal (white) damage with appropriate 1 roll attack table
2) Windfury with hidden cooldown and 2 roll attack table
3) Flurry
4) Unleashed rage
5) Storm Strike with its own unique 2 roll attack table
Checked random wws logs and found it corresponding.
What it does not simulate:
1) Armor penetration, need someone to point to the list of boss's armor and what usual - armor debuffss are
2) Procs from items - need to know what procs you would like to add first
Any feedback welcome.

Minor english type quibbles:

the best thing weapon imbue to use (Dump thing, confuses the issue)

or a Romeo's Poison Vial (Romulo's Poison Vial)

asses DPS consumables (Um.... I think you mean assess)

I don't mean to be a totally anal retentive cock-up, but this is a bloody useful reference, cleaning up the wording and grammar in spots is bound to make it timeless.

Ah thanks, correcting those now.

@Yo! - I'm unable to load your java applet at work on Ubuntu using Firefox. Java Console says its an "unsupported Class version Error", and I'm using java 1.5.0_11.

The 2.2 nerfs to haste, PPM while hasted, and DST would be worth mentioning in the original post. See the Dragonspine Trophy thread and the new Haste/PPM thread in general discussion on this board for more info.

At the very least, the stat weight for haste and the AEP value of Dragonspine Trophy on the front page are out of whack now. Mongoose and the haste metagem might need to be re-evaluated too.

It looks like haste will have the same value as hit now, as 1% haste and 1% hit will have the same item budget value (15.8 rating), and both have the same effect (1% more white damage, 1% more WF procs).


EDIT: The hasted-PPM nerf may not actually exist. Tested it tonight and it doesn't seem to for flurry/mongoose. Nevermind about mongoose and the haste metagem I guess.

Try version 1.6.0_02 (Java Runtime Environment Version 6 Update 2)
Sun Microsystems

First of all, I like it a lot. My AEP values seem really odd, though -- at least, they're quite different from what's in the OP! I ran it on 10000 hours, so hopefully that was long enough.

Edit: I should mention I was using 2350 AP, 32.46% crit, 12.45% hit, and 2.5% haste.

AP: 1
Str: 2.2
CR: 2.93
Agi: 2.85
HiR: 2.46
HaR: 2.47 (I assume this is with the pre-patch value for haste rating?)

How realistic do those seem to you?

As for procs:
* Mongoose, definitely
* Ashtongue Talisman of Vision (though I suppose you could just add this as a static +AP, though it wouldn't be quite as accurate)
* Dragonspine Trophy (with the new 20 second internal cooldown and reduced haste changes).
* Tsunami Talisman
* Hourglass of the Unraveller

Do I put buffed or unbuffed stats in? The default value of 2500 seems very high for unbuffed, obviously, but when I calculate AEPs I get unexpectedly high values for crit/hit (on the order of 1 crit = 3 AP). It's even high for buffed given those hit/crit values. Is hit with or without talents?

Running the sim again with my unbuffed stats (1700AP, 27 crit, 17 hit) I got negative AEPs (values like -1545.04 haste = 1 AP). Something is clearly going wrong.

I would suggest doing unbuffed and then putting checkboxes for GoA, BoM, BoK, MotW, BS, FoRA, etc.

Progress bar doesn't seem to work for me.

Besides the procs Xoya mentioned I'd add 4 piece T4 bonus, 4 piece T5 bonus, 4 piece T6 bonus.

I was considering that as well, hence my wondering whether the heroic neck is better for me right now than the BT trash neck. Curiously, though, this AEP makes all the usually-considered-subpar gems better for me now than Bold Living Rubies, even 8 hit gems! I'll wait to hear more feedback from others before switching up all my gems, though.

Xoya -- I dunno, I wouldn't really trust this sim yet over Tornhoof's... have you ran your numbers through that?

The haste metagem was never the right gem for shaman (due to the cooldown on the proc), the 3% crit damage is what people should be using.

I think mongoose is a flat 2% speed increase, not calculated through haste effects. Either way, mongoose will still be the best enchant, due to the added AGI on proc. I think I get around 4% crit from it per proc, with both weapon procs overlapping regularly.

Unless I'm reading that haste/ppm thread wrong, the conclusion seems to be that the PTR behavior is the same as what we have on live.

1) Check what expected DPS it provides you with. If it is about the same that you can achieve at 100% performance against boss with almost 0 armor and if the % break-up of attacks is similar to yours - use these AEP values safely.
2) 10,000 is enough for finding AEP values , 1,000 is enough for comparing gear directly via DPS. I can add dispertion/probability borders if needed. For example display not 2.46 but 2.46 ± 0.03.
3) It is assumed that BoK is on (affects Str and Agi AEP values)
4) Used new haste ratio 15.76 = 1% Haste

Thank you for procs roadmap - I will use it.

Not directly, but it gives you a DPS value, so you can add some block of AP (e.g. by changing out the gems) and then compare that to the impact of adding some block of Crit/Hit/etc, or directly compare two pieces of gear.

I have tried to run Pater's but I can't get it to compile... it doesn't like System.out.format (I guess my Java version must be old).

Buff stats to put with all your possible buffs including +hit from talents, +weapon skill from racial, etc. except for your own temporarry buffs such as UR.
For AEP calculation you have to increase Hours - look at how unstable the results are and increase Hours untill they do not change. 10,000 should be ok.
Again - compare the DPS result first, if it realistic - work on AEP.

OK, I'll try 10000 and see what I get -- I was using an hours of 1000 before. It was very confusing that with 2500 AP I got "reasonable" AEP values but with 1700 AP I got clearly "unreasonable" values.

@Yo!

I know this may not be the intended purpose for your calculator, as its main use would be to evaluate higher end values and assume proper gearing. But I noticed a very minimal DPS change when simply switching the offhand weapon speed from 2.6 to 1.5. Does not seem right.

The Weapon Skill discussion seems to be settling down:
For those who don't want to do the math,
With 0 weapon skill, you'll have a base miss rate of 7% + 2% = 9%.
With 5 weapon skill, you'll have a base miss rate of 5% + 1% = 6%.
(Base miss rates are increased by 19% as penalty for dual-wielding.)

Thus, 5 weapon skill = 3% hit. According to Blizzard, we also gain 0.1% crit per point of weapon skill, so that's 0.5% crit.
So 5 weapon skill = ~47 hit rating and ~11 crit rating.
We also gain some anti-dodge, anti-parry, and anti-block (as opposed to hit, the anti-miss)but under ideal raiding situations the only valuable one of these is anti-dodge since mobs can't parry or block from behind. That seems to be 0.2% anti-dodge which should be equivalent to at least 3 hit rating (possibly more worthwhile since hit rating should only increase white damage while anti-dodge would cancel out dodged WFs and SSes).

Under any type of valuation, if you are using maces or fist weapons that definitely makes [Belt of One-Hundred Deaths] very attractive (over 256.4 AEP vs 223.8 AEP for [Boneweave Girdle] using the valuations on the first page).

Am I right in thinking that, you are saying [Belt of One-Hundred Deaths] is 15% hit rating, 30% hit rating if you are dual-weilding a mace and a fist?

No way. 25 weapon rating = 25/3.9 = 6.4 weapon skill.
6.4 weapon skill is what will push you through magical spot of 10 weapon skill difference with boss mobs. It equals to having 3.14 (Pi!) Hit and 0.64 Crit. That is if both your weapons are daggers/fists/maces. If not - roughly half of that.

Mongoose is hands down the best weapon enchant. 120 agi = 5%. Shamans get .04% crit per agi.

As far as the speed goes, it may just be a coincidence, but I get .05 seconds wiped off my attack speed for both weapons when Mongoose procs.

No. Sorry for the confusion.

The weapon skill on it is equivalent to over 3% hit if you are using a mace and a fist, a pair of maces, or a pair of fists. If you are using only one of {mace,fist}, multiply that by 2/3 for MH and 1/3 for OH (in other words, if you MH a mace like me, the weapon skill is equivalent to over 2% hit i.e. over 30 hit rating).

My AEP calculation includes ALL the stats on it, not just the weapon skill.

Yo! rightly also mentions that daggers are included, this may be relevant when/if the FT buff hits (i.e. wielding a mace MH/axe OH might be inferior to wielding a mace MH/dagger OH).

Looks good, but I can't run it. I'm getting this error message:

(I've downloaded jre1.6.0_02)