[Rogue] Best Combat Sword PvE spec? - Page 2

Rosvall · 06/25/07, 7:43 AM

Originally Posted by Lukon

Eviscerate makes such a small proportion of your damage that improved eviscerate doesn't add much dps. Personally, eviscerate makes up ~5% of my damage output, so that each talent point in improved eviscerate adds 0.25% total damage.

The point is you should never use evis.

Rupture > Evis unless at extreme low Ap levels (under 1400 buffed) or at extreme high crit levels (I'd take a guess at 50+%)

And in the end of a figh, rather use envenom over evis.

sp00n · 06/25/07, 8:30 AM

Originally Posted by Rosvall

The point is you should never use evis.

Rupture > Evis unless at extreme low Ap levels (under 1400 buffed) or at extreme high crit levels (I'd take a guess at 50+%)

And in the end of a figh, rather use envenom over evis.

The problem is, there are several poison and rupture immune bosses, as Urraca stated.

Originally Posted by Urraca

I took imp eviscerate. I highly recommend it if your guild is in SSC/TK exclusively.

You can't use rupture on: hydross, Void Reaver, Al'ar, and Solarian's armor is hella low as well (and you have to burst down his adds). I will probably spec out of it once we move into BT/Hyjal (downed Vashj for the first time this week).

Of course, if you don't bother the few DPS increase on these bosses, improved evi is indeed negligible.

Rosvall · 06/25/07, 8:33 AM

Originally Posted by sp00n

The problem is, there are several poison and rupture immune bosses, as Urraca stated.

I'd rather call it "A few" instead of "Several".

Fingers · 06/25/07, 10:39 AM

What about 2 piece Deathmantle and 3/3 imp evis? Is evis worth it then?

I find I use eviscerate on plenty of fights. When Magtheridon is banished, Hydross, Kara trash, undead, Void Reaver etc. I'd equate the amount I use evis to how often murder would come in to play. I agree though, on boss fights where you can stand there and attack, rupture is king. I don't think I could ever recommend envenom though. If I am popping AR+BF+SnD, I'm using Eviserate.

Freschetta · 06/25/07, 11:01 AM

in my opinion, this is the best PVE Sword spec for Maximum PVE DPS. This does not figure in poison immune bosses because I always found speccing for 1 or 2 boss fights to be stupid.

http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboyZMIVobVzxMGot

There are a few things to note about it:

Assassination talents:

You can go 5/5 leth or 5/5 vile, vile will do more total DPS until you reach a high gear level:

With S2 slicer, ~3000 AP raid buffed, 25% crit, 308 hit, lethality is adding about 3.06 DPS per point, vile adds 3 DPS to your DP ticks.

Combat:

Lightning reflexes can be exchanged with gouge, i prefer gouge myself.

Vitality: I chose this because it does increase damage by a very small amount, it can be moved anywhere else though. IMO, Imp kick is a must.

Cybelirrae · 06/25/07, 11:04 AM

Originally Posted by Fingers

What about 2 piece Deathmantle and 3/3 imp evis? Is evis worth it then?

I find I use eviscerate on plenty of fights. When Magtheridon is banished, Hydross, Kara trash, undead, Void Reaver etc. I'd equate the amount I use evis to how often murder would come in to play. I agree though, on boss fights where you can stand there and attack, rupture is king. I don't think I could ever recommend envenom though. If I am popping AR+BF+SnD, I'm using Eviserate.

I was curious about the same issue. I am guessing no, but was wondering if anyone had tried to model it vs rupture.