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Old 06/25/07, 11:47 AM   #1
skil
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Druid
 
Nordrassil (EU)
[Rogue] Stacking Haste

Folks,
I'm a long time browser, first time poster. Be gentle

Firstly, thanks for all the useful information. It's been invaluable for a player who likes to tweak his character / gameplay to eke out as much dps as possible. Sad? Hey. I enjoy it.

I currently have 320 hit rating from gear (+Precision 5/5, +Mace Spec 5/5), ~1450 AP, 22% crit.

Ok, my questions.

(1) I never miss white damage, but I do get Dodged and Parried (when I get can't behind the mob) occasionally. Is this normal?

(2) Since white damage makes up on avg. 55% of my total dps, would increasing Haste % / rating benefit this? (if yes, I'm considering getting Blackout Truncheon instead of using my Arena 2 Bonecracker OH).

(3) I can't seem to find a definitive post on whether Sword Spec 5/5 + Quickblade in OH actually grants additional attacks to MH (I'm using Dragonmaw)?

Thanks for your time and again, EJ is a great resource - pls keep it up!

Cheers

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Old 06/25/07, 11:49 AM   #2
Urraca
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First of all, you have surpassed the hit cap. which is 308. So the extra +hit you have is being wasted.

Secondly yes, sword specials are all MH attacks. So your OH and MH special attacks all trigger a MH swing.

Haste is probably our best stat these days, followed by +hit. Although haste stacking sounds like a good idea, I would recommend to do it intelligently. Don't use a blackout truncheon over a season 2 OH. But if you're given the chance with BT/Hyjal gear, I'd look into that--which I plan on doing.
 
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Old 06/25/07, 11:51 AM   #3
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Jaedenar (EU)
I always wonder how much people who sign their posts actually 'browse' these forums.

/f15/a12-a/
/f15/a5-a/

I suggest you use the search function abit more. At least 2 of those questions have been answered already (hint: spreadsheet).

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Old 06/25/07, 11:56 AM   #4
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Hi.
Appreciate the responses.

I have checked the standard theorycrafting posts, 308 hit cap was mentioned but I didn't see a reference to white attacks or specials.

As I've been getting dodged or parried, hence my higher hit rating from gear, I thought it would make a difference on being dodged or parried.

I'll take a look at the spreadsheet.

Hm. And on the signing thing, I thought that referred to having a "signature" in the profile, my bad.
 
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Old 06/25/07, 12:07 PM   #5
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308 is the hit cap for white damage. (Assuming you have WEx/mace spec + precision.) You need ~8.62 for specials. (I believe it was the same as using a 2h or ranged weapon.)

If you want to see more discussion on the topic I suggest looking through the Rogue DPS Spreadsheet thread. There is quite a bit of useful information.

Also, announcing your first post or that you're new, signing your posts, and creating new threads for topics that are covered in other threads is frowned upon.

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Old 06/25/07, 1:03 PM   #6
Urraca
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Originally Posted by skil View Post
Hi.
Appreciate the responses.

I have checked the standard theorycrafting posts, 308 hit cap was mentioned but I didn't see a reference to white attacks or specials.

As I've been getting dodged or parried, hence my higher hit rating from gear, I thought it would make a difference on being dodged or parried.

I'll take a look at the spreadsheet.

Hm. And on the signing thing, I thought that referred to having a "signature" in the profile, my bad.
Maxing your +hit just means you won't 'miss' an attack, you can still be dodged. As far as parry, that means you are attacking from the front. Stay in the back, and you can't be parried.
 
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Old 06/25/07, 1:05 PM   #7
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Originally Posted by Urraca View Post
Maxing your +hit just means you won't 'miss' an attack, you can still be dodged. As far as parry, that means you are attacking from the front. Stay in the back, and you can't be parried.
Except on the trash in Mag's lair.

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Old 06/26/07, 4:55 AM   #8
sp00n
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Originally Posted by Spades View Post
Except on the trash in Mag's lair.
Why can't you stay behind the trahs mobs in Mag's lair?
And what does this have to do with stacking haste?

 
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Old 06/26/07, 5:38 AM   #9
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Originally Posted by sp00n View Post
Why can't you stay behind the trahs mobs in Mag's lair?
And what does this have to do with stacking haste?
Perhaps because on these trash, it's very difficult to be in back because:
_ Tauren are to big to see them
_ They swap quickly sometimes on melee target.

It more "easy" for me to kill them with Sinister Strike spam. But Combat Dagger will rejoice on Maghteridon himself.

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