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Old 01/24/08, 9:29 PM   #151
bobtheorc
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Orc Warrior
 
Draenor
What are people's thoughts of rotating shaman to bloodlust the main tank party?

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Old 01/25/08, 1:11 AM   #152
Xav
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Sen'jin
You'd only bloodlust/heroism the main tank if the rest of the raid is going to get it too, and if it wouldn't be wasted. Generally there's 2 melee groups nowadays, for us anyway, one of the melee groups has the main tank in it. So I get a heroism on say Gorefiend, but only because the rest of my group is too, and benefits. The added threat shouldn't be needed on most things unless people are pushing as hard as they can, as fast as they can.

On anything that isn't like, Gorefiend, you probably don't want to be giving Heroism to the MT. Although it can certainly help in RoS phase 3 as well.

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Old 01/25/08, 1:55 PM   #153
Coolyo
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Ravencrest (EU)
Originally Posted by Kiklerakos View Post
Is it possible to get a Druid version of this threat calculator?
I stopped playing some months ago but if i get time, i will maybe make one for druids aswell

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Old 01/25/08, 6:42 PM   #154
sabinsmain
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Human Warrior
 
Kel'Thuzad
tps on gorefiend

so i was reading and wondering if someone could cruch the numbers of our guilds first gorefiend kill and see how much tps i was putting out. MY DPS said i was putting out a lot of threat and i was hoping to see how much sustained tps i was doin

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Old 01/25/08, 7:06 PM   #155
Xav
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Sen'jin
Are you blind? A link was posted just a few posts above that has a threat calculator that you put your WWS report logs into. Putting your page in gives you 889 TPS, which is pretty horrible, to be honest.

Here's the link, again. Kenneth Gant Niebuhr - Online portfolie

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Old 01/28/08, 10:08 AM   #156
Reikki
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Human Warrior
 
Todeswache (EU)
Hi,

The Thread Starter calculates the Threat from Heroic Strike Rank 11 (220 Base Threat?). There is no Heroic Strike Rank 11
avaiable in the Game or do i miss something?

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Old 01/28/08, 11:47 AM   #157
Xav
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Heroic Strike rank 11 is just datamined and in the game files but not obtainable, no worries

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Old 02/08/08, 1:27 PM   #158
Orcheon
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Draenei Shaman
 
Illidan
Got another good one.

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Is the calculator accurate? Running my own numbers, i'm coming up with about a 100 TPS difference.

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Old 02/08/08, 3:03 PM   #159
Xav
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Sen'jin
The calculator is accurate. Are you properly accounting for threat from heals, at the 50% rate? Remember, Leader of the Pack heals do not count for any threat, Earth Shield, JoL, PoM do, though.

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Old 03/07/08, 5:34 PM   #160
Ulise
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Argent Dawn
Originally Posted by Casket View Post
A fellow guild-mate of mine suggested that I post here because my TPS is usually pretty high. I see that Teron Gorefiend is the boss of choice for testing so here's a WWS link of myself tanking him. Granted this was not a kill shot (yeah yeah we normally one-shot him but people can still mess up with their ghosts), but we still did 4.9m damage to him so it was close enough to a kill shot to count.

Casket - WWS

When placed in the TPS calculator:

Battle time in seconds: 266

Heroic Strike:
Amount: 45185 Hits: 81 Crits: 18 Dmg Threat: 67551.575 Skill Threat: 32561.1
Shield slam:
Amount: 26720 Hits: 26 Crits: 3 Dmg Threat: 39946.4 Skill Threat: 13309.985
Melee:
Amount: 10768 Hits: 28 Crits: 9 Dmg Threat: 16098.16 Skill Threat: 0
Revenge:
Amount: 13982 Hits: 23 Crits: 7 Dmg Threat: 20903.09 Skill Threat: 9014.85
Devastate:
Amount: 15320 Hits: 41 Crits: 5 Dmg Threat: 22903.4 Skill Threat: 6945.77
Shield Bash:
Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
Cleave:
Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
Thunder Clap:
Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
Reflect:
Amount: 1639 Hits: 64 Crits: Dmg Threat: 2450.305 Skill Threat: 0
Vengeance:
Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
Thunderfury:
Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
Deep Wound:
Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
Lifebloom:
Amount: 49872 Overheal: 42% Threat: 28925.76
Earthshield:
Amount: 8065 Overheal: 3% Threat: 7823.05
Prayer of Mending:
Amount: 3925 Overheal: 0% Threat: 3925

Total amount of dmg threat: 169852.93
Total amount of skill threat: 61831.705
Total amount of healing threat: 34799.785

TPS: 1001.8211278195

Note: I did not have WF or BS.
Hey Casket,

What kind of gear did you have?
Because I only have T6 gloves (and in general BT tanking gear), while my log is pretty close to yours: No WF nor BS and I kept up TC, demo, CS and shield block.

The fight itself is identical: 269 seconds and 4.8m damage:
Battle time in seconds: 269

Heroic Strike:
Amount: 32389 Hits: 66 Crits: 9 Dmg Threat: 48421.555 Skill Threat: 24667.5
Shield slam:
Amount: 22683 Hits: 25 Crits: 5 Dmg Threat: 33911.085 Skill Threat: 13768.95
Melee:
Amount: 18837 Hits: 58 Crits: 15 Dmg Threat: 28161.315 Skill Threat: 0
Revenge:
Amount: 16194 Hits: 27 Crits: 8 Dmg Threat: 24210.03 Skill Threat: 10517.325
Devastate:
Amount: 16386 Hits: 51 Crits: 5 Dmg Threat: 24497.07 Skill Threat: 8455.72
Shield Bash:
Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
Cleave:
Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
Thunder Clap:
Amount: 1409 Hits: 8 Crits: Dmg Threat: 2106.455 Skill Threat: 3686.29625
Reflect:
Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
Vengeance:
Amount: 484 Hits: 5 Crits: Dmg Threat: 723.58 Skill Threat: 0
Thunderfury:
Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
Deep Wound:
Amount: Hits: Crits: Dmg Threat: 0 Skill Threat: 0
Lifebloom:
Amount: Overheal: % Threat: 0
Earthshield:
Amount: 26392 Overheal: 3% Threat: 25600.24
Prayer of Mending:
Amount: 47854 Overheal: 10% Threat: 43068.6

Total amount of dmg threat: 162031.09
Total amount of skill threat: 61095.79125
Total amount of healing threat: 34334.42

TPS: 957.10520910781

Does anyone have any suggestions?

I see that I have more Devastes/HS vs Casket, but I don't think that's bad...
I also have more melee, meaning that probably was too conservative with my cycles, or trying to debuff the boss/heal myself.
Oh yeah and I usually OT now, alas :P

/Happy hunting!

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Old 03/10/08, 12:32 PM   #161
zork
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Aegwynn (EU)
I just made a new threat calculator to get some data out of WWS logs.

WWS Log:
Rothar WWS Log from Gorefiend Firstkill

Calculator:
TPS Calculator

Can you give it a look, I hope that everything is correct.

I got some questions:
- How is healing threat handled in defensive stance?
- Is half the heal multiplied with the threat_multiplier too?
- Do the 108004 healing that are summed up in the WWS log include overhealing?

Last edited by zork : 03/10/08 at 12:43 PM.

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Old 04/01/08, 2:57 AM   #162
Coolyo
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Ravencrest (EU)
UPDATE:

- Changed Melee to Swing
- Old logs (Melee) wont be calculated

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Old 04/07/08, 7:02 PM   #163
Solina
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Tauren Warrior
 
Emeriss (EU)
Is it me or is the website down atm ?

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Old 04/08/08, 5:46 AM   #164
Fredaykin
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Vol'jin (EU)
It's not just you, looks like the DNS resolution was somehow "tuned"
Hope it gets back to normal quickly.

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Old 04/08/08, 6:37 AM   #165
Coolyo
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Ravencrest (EU)
UPDATE:

- My domain is getting moved to another server since it didnt used php5 :o should only take 24 hours... but im still waiting :P

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