No, hemo is still not normalized.
The 125% doesn't affect the debuff btw.

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Dirty deeds in sheet 2.3.0.2

Increases dmg for specials on mobhealth < 35%
The 20% is guessed for an earlier ptr.

But that`s around 7% of total.
(20/100*35)

[edit..] How stupid, i missed cell R27....[/edit]

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Don't forget to set 'Dirty Deeds Damage Increase' to overall instead of 35% to see the effective (estimated) DPS increase (estimated because it assumes that the last 35% take as long as the other 65% for each percent).
I was wondering why DD increased my DPS by over 60, while I calculated it to be only around 16 for myself.
Setting this to overall produced a much more in line result of 22 DPS. However, still trying to figure out this 6 DPS difference.

Minimum range on shadowstep is gone, so you may want to incorporate this into the sheet somehow. It looks to me like you'll want to use it on big ruptures wherever possible, to get the maximum benefit from the 20% damage boost. So the best way to model it may be as a straight adjustment to Rupture cost and damage.

This assumes your cycle is longer than 30 seconds, so you can burn SStep on every rupture. Is that reasonable? Even with the NS 2-piece bonus, my optimal cycle is 3s/5r. The s costs 10 energy (25 for the hit, and 15 returned from Relentless). Rupture costs 0 (25 for the hit, and 25 returned from Relentless). Sstep costs 10.

Energy cost for 3s/5r (with Sstep) is thus 8 x 35 + 10 + 0 + 10 = 300. Precisely 30 seconds, thus long enough to use Sstep on every rupture. Without the NS 2-piece bonus, the cycle will be 4s/5r or 5s/5r, easily long enough to Sstep each rupture.

What exactly does this do when I add it to cell X8? I see a number there now, what does it mean?

Simply adding 125% weapon damage to the average Hemo damage.

what does the number in X8 (in my sheet I see 450) mean, after adding that equation? I don't see any other numbers change.

Interesting, i wonder where this change puts the new hemo for raid dps then.
Damage would be about the same as riposte then.
It's good they normalized it, in a way. Less hassle with weapon speed.
I suppose we'll see when 2.3 hits.

Still seems on par with combat swords when you factor the debuff on personal DPS. Simply enable Hemo in raid buffs to see how it effects unbuffed DPS.

You do gain some increased pvp viability though.
If the total raid dps is on par, i suspect a good few combat rogues would make the switch.

I'm going to try it out. Been reading various forums since last night and I'm pretty much convinced of it.

I knew this was too good to be true, cause when i tried it, I would have expexted for damage to be on par with SS but it was less

But is still does more DPS than combat swords

i didnt find the cell to change the 125% dmg for hemo.
cell x8 is always blank at every sheet

Unhide unbuffed/buffed cycles sheets

thanks

http://rogue.raidcal.com/RogueDPS_2_3_0_3.xls
2.3.0.3
changed
Hemo 125% weapon dmg
Hemo normalize (2.4)

added
Slayer 4 Bonus to Hemo

I was looking over the last version of the spreadsheet this weekend and found a few mistakes...

Helm - Cell D8 should read 53 not 58 (at least according to the stats on wowhead)

Unbuffed cycles - X6 still is multiplying weapon damage by 165% (AP by 150%) and still is incorrectly multiplicative for Opportunity/Surprise Attacks/Aggression). not to mention the changes for Aggression have not been added here.

Correct formula here:

[top]Slayer4value*(mhavg*1.5+uap/14*1.7*1.5+255)*(Z6+(ucfact+0.06*leth)*Z7)*(1+sa*0.1+0.04*opp+0.02*agg)

Similar for X7 - Correction:

Slayer4value*(mhavg+uap/14*2.4+98)*(Z6+(ucfact+0.06*leth)*Z7)*(1+sa*0.1+0.02*agg)

Similarly for Buffed Cycles:
X6

[top]Slayer4value*(mhavg*1.5+ap/14*1.7*1.5+255)*(Z6+(cfact+0.06*leth)*Z7)*(1+sa*0.1+0.04*opp+0.02*agg)
X7

Slayer4value*(mhavg+ap/14*2.4+98)*(Z6+(cfact+0.06*leth)*Z7)*(1+sa*0.1+0.02*agg)

Some formulas would have to change on the chart for unbuffed dps and buffed dps for min/avg/max but since they aren't really used in the calculations, I didn't reformulate them.

It is included if you have ticked the Hemo Debuff Estimate checkbox a bit to the right on the talent page of the spread sheet.

Hmm. Does that mean hemo is counted double if you also check the buff checkbox in the bottom of the gear page?

I believe it is. That seems logical at least.

So I'm still confused as to what "Include Hemo Debuff DPS Estimate?" represents.

Specifically, my confusion is around why when I enable that option the recommended cycle flips from 1s/5r (2 pc Netherblade) to 2s/5r. Perhaps the estimated raidwide gain is being regarded as personal gain in the cycle models?

Yes. When you tick "Include Hemo Debuff DPS Estimate", it includes the Hemo debuff effect when calculating the output DPS for each cycle. You have to remember to *untick* the Hemo box in the buffs sheet, otherwise you end up double-counting.

As for the change in recommended cycle, I saw that as well. My suspicion is that it's because with a 2s/5r cycle you're spending more energy on Hemorrage, thus getting more use from the Hemo debuff. Presumably the drop in Rupture uptime is minimal enough that this actually makes a difference.

I don't think I've ever been in a raid with more than one rogue specced hemo. Does anyone know if hemo stacks when there are two rogues using it (example: two debuffs with 10 charges each)? I'm thinking in a standard 25man raid with three rogues it might make sense to have two hemo because the 10 charges get used up so damn fast. Any thoughts?