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07/17/07, 8:11 PM
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#101
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comprehensively superior palpation
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In versions 2.2.0.4 and 2.2.0.5 in Mac Excel 11.3.5 I get "Error in loading DLL" errors on opening the spreadsheet or clicking on any of the buttons. I had no problems using the "Save DPS" or "Calcuate AEP" buttons in the 2.3.5 version.
on edit - looks like my VBA installation was corrupt.
Last edited by astearns : 07/20/07 at 1:56 AM.
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07/17/07, 8:24 PM
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#102
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Von Kaiser
Blood Elf Rogue
Zirkel des Cenarius (EU)
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In Version 2.2.04 and 2.2.0.5 some Gems are only available, when Jewelcrafter is activated, but they are Boe. Example: Wicked Noble Topaz (4crit/8ap)
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07/18/07, 4:31 AM
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#103
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King Hippo
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Originally Posted by astearns
In versions 2.2.0.4 and 2.2.0.5 in Mac Excel 11.3.5 I get "Error in loading DLL" errors on opening the spreadsheet or clicking on any of the buttons. I had no problems using the "Save DPS" or "Calcuate AEP" buttons in the 2.3.5 version.
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Not seeing that same problem here.
Excel version 11.0
The "search upgrade" functions still cause the "function not defined" error however.
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07/18/07, 5:17 AM
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#104
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Rogue
Zirkel des Cenarius (EU)
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Originally Posted by Kapuras
In Version 2.2.04 and 2.2.0.5 some Gems are only available, when Jewelcrafter is activated, but they are Boe. Example: Wicked Noble Topaz (4crit/8ap)
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Should be the only gem. Some gems are marked as Jewelcrafter because of BoP.
Some Gems are marked as Hayjal and same as Heroic (and Quiality of course)
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In versions 2.2.0.4 and 2.2.0.5 in Mac Excel 11.3.5 I get "Error in loading DLL" errors on opening the spreadsheet or clicking on any of the buttons. I had no problems using the "Save DPS" or "Calcuate AEP" buttons in the 2.3.5 version.
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Would test it, but a don't have a Mac and Zurgat says it works for him.
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The "search upgrade" functions still cause the "function not defined" error however.
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Never heared this before, on all upgrade Buttons?
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07/18/07, 5:27 AM
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#105
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Von Kaiser
Dwarf Rogue
Quel'Thalas (EU)
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Unique Gems
Of course, first to say: great job on upgrading the files. It must be a hell of a job to figure out all this stuff and implement it in such a file.
Allthough I'm willing to give a suggestion for another implementation:
I'm wearing some gems in my gear which are Unique since they come from an Heroic instance. When I say I equip it in the DPS spreadsheet and click on the "upgrade gems" button it still says in some gems fields I can upgrade it with another unique gem which I already have equipped.
Is it possible to detect which unique gems u have equipped at the moment and then eleminate it for the rest of the sockets?
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07/18/07, 5:36 AM
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#106
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Rogue
Zirkel des Cenarius (EU)
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Originally Posted by Radmsc
Of course, first to say: great job on upgrading the files. It must be a hell of a job to figure out all this stuff and implement it in such a file.
Allthough I'm willing to give a suggestion for another implementation:
I'm wearing some gems in my gear which are Unique since they come from an Heroic instance. When I say I equip it in the DPS spreadsheet and click on the "upgrade gems" button it still says in some gems fields I can upgrade it with another unique gem which I already have equipped.
Is it possible to detect which unique gems u have equipped at the moment and then eleminate it for the rest of the sockets?
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I've already flaggt them unique, because I wanted to make this with the last release (or one of them). The problem is, I make comparison and I'll get the row where the gem is set in, but for all Gems how aren't use I get an error in this I could intercept by using iferror. The only problem is, this seems to only work in Excel 2007.
Maybe I have to make interlocked If-queries.
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07/18/07, 5:39 AM
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#107
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Von Kaiser
Dwarf Rogue
Quel'Thalas (EU)
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ah, so you are already on it, good luck =)
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07/18/07, 5:39 AM
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#108
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King Hippo
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Originally Posted by Ellos
Never heared this before, on all upgrade Buttons?
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Yep, all the upgrade buttons give the same error:
Visual basic gives the error "Sub or function not defined"
Yellow arrow on line: "Public Sub UpgradeCheck(ByVal TargetRow As Integer)"
"Replace " selected on line : "Listname = Replace(ItemCell.Validation.Formula1, "=", "")"
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Copy works fine.
Save DPS works fine.
Import/Export broken, but you already knew that.
Last edited by Zurgat : 07/18/07 at 5:52 AM.
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07/18/07, 7:01 AM
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#109
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Glass Joe
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Originally Posted by sp00n
Well basically it comes down to 5% crit for special attacks - including windfury - versus the 212 haste rating proc of the mace.
Additionally, you would either have to chose between mace spec and weapon expertise, or take all of them, mace spec, weapon expertise and sword spec, which is a rather heavy investment (takes that last two points in e.g. vile poisons also away).
Since I don't know how the proc rate for the mace is, I have no idea, but I suppose that the fist would be better.
What does the spreadsheet say? 
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Heh, as for the proc rate, it doesn't proc too often ( i haven't tested it but it sure doesn't proc alot)
If i choose mace spec, 0 points will go to mace specialization, 5/5 swords, and maxed weapon expertise, so its not a total loss if i go towards Mace.
As you mentioned, it basically comes down to 5% crits on specials etc, or haste rating + higher top end damage (343 max on Mace, compared to 330 on Merciless Fist)
I'm seeking for some knowledge beyond my own, any input would be well appreciated !
[Dragonstrike] & [Merciless Gladiator's Quickblade]
[Merciless Gladiator's Right Ripper] & [Merciless Gladiator's Quickblade]
The spreadsheet doesn't offer mace weapons 
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07/18/07, 7:06 AM
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#110
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Rogue
Zirkel des Cenarius (EU)
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Just buildin at the Racials. Quick Question @ Bloodelfs. The Racial gives every 1:30min 30 Energy when using? (I know you have to build up charges, but when using this ability)
Originally Posted by iarelarry
The spreadsheet doesn't offer mace weapons 
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Note:
- On the right site are now Options. Only the Item from the location that are marked will be seen.
- Weapons only the choosen Type (and location of course)
- Import Equip/Talents/Buffs of an older Version may break the Spreadsheet
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07/18/07, 7:15 AM
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#111
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Glass Joe
Gnome Rogue
Die Silberne Hand (EU)
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First off, great job on updating this valuable tool. I have been using this Spreadsheet for ages now, and the Upgrade Makros are a really great tool.
As the development of the Spreadsheet is speeding up at a rapid pace right now, I would like to use the opportunity to give a feature suggestion:
- Easy to switch Talent Templates.
What I mean by this is to provide a list of the most common specs, such as Mutilate, Combat (Dagger, Mace, Fist, Sword), Hemo, etc. and a customizable spec to choose from. (Basically you get a dropdown field and if you choose one of the specs, the values are copied into the talent cells accordingly very simmilar to how the item selection works).
- Why would this be interesting ?
Well, it is all about comparing "what DPS would I do with the weapons I got access to with the different specs". Simply switch back and forth between Combat Dagger, Mutilate, and whatever to see how this affects your DPS and gear choices. And it would also be more simple for new users to select their spec, if it differs from the one used when uploading the latest version of the spreadsheet.
Another neat feature would be, if the item upgrades calculated by the macro are not only added as a comment to the item cell in the geat Spreadsheet. Instead, the Upgrade Makro could create an additional table where you can see all your possible upgrades with the related numbers at once without having to mouse-over the item-cells.
Just some ideas. :-) Elsewise, keep up the great work!
Martika
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07/18/07, 7:16 AM
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#112
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Co-starring: The Egg
Blood Elf Paladin
Azjol-Nerub (EU)
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It's 30 Energy every 2 minutes at most. (Arcane Torrent is the ability that triggers the actual Mana/Energy restoration, and has a 2 minute cooldown)
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07/18/07, 7:24 AM
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#113
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King Hippo
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Originally Posted by Chicken
It's 30 Energy every 2 minutes at most. (Arcane Torrent is the ability that triggers the actual Mana/Energy restoration, and has a 2 minute cooldown)
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Correct, "mana tap" has a 30 second cooldown, but can only be used against creatures / players with mana.
The actual mana / energy / rage giving ability has a 2 minute cooldown.
1 Charge can be obtained every 30 seconds.
Max charges : 3
10 Energy gained per charge.
Originally Posted by Martika
First off, great job on updating this valuable tool. I have been using this Spreadsheet for ages now, and the Upgrade Makros are a really great tool.
As the development of the Spreadsheet is speeding up at a rapid pace right now, I would like to use the opportunity to give a feature suggestion:
- Easy to switch Talent Templates.
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I use 2 spreadsheets for this purpose.
* One where i have my default gear and Swords equipped.
* One where i have the same gear, but am using Daggers.
It works decently.
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07/18/07, 8:50 AM
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#114
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Bald Bull
Night Elf Rogue
Wrathbringer (EU)
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Originally Posted by iarelarry
The spreadsheet doesn't offer mace weapons 
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It does.
Haven't checked the later version after the change, but I believe you have to set "Maces" somewhere. Before, you simply had to scroll down to the maces in the weapons field.
// Edit
There:
Originally Posted by mih
Equip Options
Weapon MH: Dagger
Weapon OH: Dagger
switch Dagger to Sword/Mace 
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07/18/07, 8:56 AM
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#115
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Rogue
Zirkel des Cenarius (EU)
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Next time I'll poste such Informations directly on the Download Page 
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07/18/07, 1:36 PM
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#116
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Glass Joe
Gnome Rogue
Die Silberne Hand (EU)
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Originally Posted by Zurgat
I use 2 spreadsheets for this purpose.
* One where i have my default gear and Swords equipped.
* One where i have the same gear, but am using Daggers.
It works decently.
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So do I, but it would be so much easier ;-)
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07/18/07, 6:12 PM
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#117
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Rogue
Zirkel des Cenarius (EU)
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Originally Posted by Martika
First off, great job on updating this valuable tool. I have been using this Spreadsheet for ages now, and the Upgrade Makros are a really great tool.
As the development of the Spreadsheet is speeding up at a rapid pace right now, I would like to use the opportunity to give a feature suggestion:
- Easy to switch Talent Templates.
What I mean by this is to provide a list of the most common specs, such as Mutilate, Combat (Dagger, Mace, Fist, Sword), Hemo, etc. and a customizable spec to choose from. (Basically you get a dropdown field and if you choose one of the specs, the values are copied into the talent cells accordingly very simmilar to how the item selection works).
- Why would this be interesting ?
Well, it is all about comparing "what DPS would I do with the weapons I got access to with the different specs". Simply switch back and forth between Combat Dagger, Mutilate, and whatever to see how this affects your DPS and gear choices. And it would also be more simple for new users to select their spec, if it differs from the one used when uploading the latest version of the spreadsheet.
Another neat feature would be, if the item upgrades calculated by the macro are not only added as a comment to the item cell in the geat Spreadsheet. Instead, the Upgrade Makro could create an additional table where you can see all your possible upgrades with the related numbers at once without having to mouse-over the item-cells.
Just some ideas. :-) Elsewise, keep up the great work!
Martika
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Have fun by buildin this
This would be to much work for to less use, I think I won't make this.
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07/18/07, 8:11 PM
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#118
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Rogue
Mannoroth
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Few questions, sorry if this has already been answered.
Rupture vs Evis.. everyone says that rupture is better, and yet it only ticks for 1000 over 16 seconds, while my evis (as a sword rogue) hits for 1100-non crit. If it crits its 2500-3200
Secondly, I currently use IP in my MH and DP in my OH, I'm curious if this is maximizing my damage output?
There were other questions I had, but of course I forgot
Thanks,
Tib
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07/18/07, 8:24 PM
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#119
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Von Kaiser
Human Death Knight
Medivh
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Read your Rupture tooltip - it scales with AP. It should be doing at least like 1300
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07/18/07, 9:21 PM
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#120
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Rogue
Mannoroth
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also curious, I was told by a rogue today that Blade Flurry doesn't stack with SnD, of course I thought it completely wrong, but I'm curious what you guys thought.
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07/18/07, 9:35 PM
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#121
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Von Kaiser
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Originally Posted by Tibeius
also curious, I was told by a rogue today that Blade Flurry doesn't stack with SnD, of course I thought it completely wrong, but I'm curious what you guys thought.
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All haste stacks multiplicatively.
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07/18/07, 10:42 PM
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#122
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Maniq is awesome.
Troll Rogue
Nazjatar (EU)
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But make sure that you do it like:
snd * bf * (added up haste ratings)
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07/19/07, 12:55 AM
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#123
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Gnome Connoisseur
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Hmm I just DLed the 2 2 0 5 sheet and I am using Open Office.
under weapon selection the list of items available in the menu is:
none
Blade of the Unrequited
Ced's Carver
Dirge
Emerald Ripper
Fang of Vashj
Feltooth Eviscerator
Gladiator's Shanker
GM/HW Shanker
GM/HW Shiv
Guile of Khoraazi
Heartrazor
Hungering Spineripper
Illidari-Bane Dagger
Infinity Blade
Malchazeen
Merciless Gladiator's Shanker
Retainer's Blade
Riftmaker
Terror Flame Dagger
The Night Blade
Timeslicer
Vileblade of the Betrayer
Warp Splinter's Thorn
Wastewalker Shiv
Whispering Blade of Slaying
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This list appears in the weapon sheet as cells AJ40 to AJ66, so is it possibly just a referencing error?
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07/19/07, 1:05 AM
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#124
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Piston Honda
Night Elf Rogue
Frostmourne
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The changelog, multiple posts on this page and the last, all have the answer to this. You have to select the weapon type on the right side of the gear sheet now.
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07/19/07, 2:43 AM
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#125
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Glass Joe
Night Elf Rogue
Kul Tiras (EU)
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I'm currently trying to decide between Merciless mainhand dagger and fist, so I entered my current "dagger" gear (1618 AP, 31.14%crit, 18,70%hit, DST and hourglass as trinkets, haste metagem and netherblade 2 piece bonus) and checked how much less dps I would gain with the fist than the dagger. It was a big surprise to notice that according to the spreadsheet I actually did considerably more unbuffed dps with the fist, even with a dagger in the offhand. Can this be true? I used pretty standard 20/41/0 and 15/41/5 builds and triple checked the talents.
Sorry about vague question, I just can't narrow down what the reason for this could be, unless it's that combat daggers really need help.
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