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Old 08/28/07, 1:27 PM   #101
Faliel
Glass Joe
 
Draenei Paladin
 
Dalaran
Does anyone know where or how I might be able to find this out for certain? Or does anyone have any hard data to support which is true?
 
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Old 08/28/07, 1:36 PM   #102
dhegin
Glass Joe
 
Human Rogue
 
Doomhammer
You could always test for yourself if you want hard proof.
http://elitistjerks.com/356253-post1672.html

If you need to know how to read the combat log results:

You gain 1 extra attack through Sword Specialization.
Triggering Swing.
Resulting Swing.
 
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Old 08/28/07, 4:19 PM   #103
sp00n
Bald Bull
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Wrathbringer (EU)
Originally Posted by Faliel View Post
Does anyone know where or how I might be able to find this out for certain? Or does anyone have any hard data to support which is true?
I tested this in *cough* this very same thread:
[Rogue] Mechanics Testing Thread

 
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Old 08/28/07, 4:29 PM   #104
dhegin
Glass Joe
 
Human Rogue
 
Doomhammer
http://www.roflwut.com/dragonstrike.rar

38 minutes of me wielding dragonstrike and nothing offhanded while attacking a servant. Hope it helps; if there is anything else I can do or should have done different, let me know.
 
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Old 08/28/07, 5:26 PM   #105
Koosai
Von Kaiser
 
Troll Rogue
 
Smolderthorn
Originally Posted by dhegin View Post
To the best of my knowledge, all extra attacks proc a Mainhand attack.
Yes, that is the accepted theory, and is rather easily proven by looking at logs. You will see the extra attack message, then the OH swing for 300ish and the MH swing for 800ish (that is with my gear).

However can we keep the rest of the thread for actual testing and maths please?

EDIT: bah, missed the 5th page, seems others beat me to answering
 
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Old 08/29/07, 12:02 AM   #106
 Aldriana
Super Macho Man
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Proudmoore
Originally Posted by dhegin View Post
http://www.roflwut.com/dragonstrike.rar

38 minutes of me wielding dragonstrike and nothing offhanded while attacking a servant. Hope it helps; if there is anything else I can do or should have done different, let me know.
Haste Procs: 30
Uptime Periods: 27
Total Swings: 896
Proc Rate: 0.0334821428571
Proc Std. Dev: 0.00600976595163
Proc rate lies between 0.021703001592 and 0.0452612841223

PPM Values
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Mean: 0.744047619048
Min: 0.482288924266
Max: 1.00580631383
Given that pretty much all procs seem to turn out to be 1 PPM, and that it's within the range, I'm guessing 1 PPM. But I'd need a longer sample to confirm it.
 
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Old 08/29/07, 1:42 AM   #107
dhegin
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Human Rogue
 
Doomhammer
A longer sample it is then. Will post when I'm done.

Edit: http://www.roflwut.com/dragonstrike2.rar
There are 2 discrepancies in the entire hour and 45 minutes, one where I accidentally hit blind, and another where I accidentally stopped autoattacking. Hopefully the data is still sufficient.

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