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Old 07/18/07, 4:13 PM   #16
Nezralix
Bald Bull
 
Orc Warrior
 
Burning Blade
Originally Posted by galzohar View Post
I remember reading some very long time ago somehwere that even when your defense is supposed to give you 0% chance to be crit, in reality you will still have some extremely low chance to be crit regardless, and "crit immune" people reported they got crit. This is probably experiencing it in first person. What I really wonder is if that chance gets knocked off the table when shield block is up (it should probably? making it even more rare).
I read this also, something like a 0.01% chance to be crit anyway. Does not necessarily apply to dual-wielding mobs.

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Old 07/19/07, 9:22 AM   #17
Oneiros
Piston Honda
 
Human Priest
 
Greymane
There are some mobs that have higher than 5% crit chance. Just joking around playing with Teremus in Blasted Lands with 500ish defense at level 70, he crit me more than a few times.

Edit: Or maybe its just Teremus-- I'm half tempted to go do it again but the account with my warrior on it is no longer active.

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Old 07/19/07, 10:19 AM   #18
Emily
Piston Honda
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Doomhammer (EU)
Originally Posted by juggernauth View Post
I don't know where this screenshot comes from, but we can see a french protection warrior on it,
French people have a higher chance to be critted. Possibly due to aggravating the mobs with their devil-may-care Gallic ways and stripy jumpers.

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Old 07/20/07, 7:16 AM   #19
Asana
Glass Joe
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Stormrage (EU)
Just adding in another observation of this. One of the ogre trash in Gruul's lair critted me for 6.1k yesterday, with me being at 521 def.

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Old 07/20/07, 8:15 AM   #20
sp00n
Bald Bull
 
Night Elf Rogue
 
Wrathbringer (EU)
Do you have any screenshot / combatlog?

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Old 07/20/07, 8:52 AM   #21
Meyla
Von Kaiser
 
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Bronzebeard (EU)
Is it possible to be crited by Hydross and one of spawn (opposite res) when having 496def without druid being MC or sitting? Can't paste now any screen or combatlog to prove it but there was a hit like 15k with 100% mark and 5k on spawn.

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Old 07/22/07, 1:35 AM   #22
KrunkMcGrunk
Glass Joe
 
Human Warrior
 
Durotan
I'll throw my hat in the ring and say that I was critted by Curator yesterday (yes, I know. lolololol Karazhan). I want to say it was about 5 times in 3 or so pulls. I found it to be really odd, as I was told from a few different sources that 490 Defense was supposed to make me "Crit Immune". Granted, he didn't crit me often, but it did happen.

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Old 07/22/07, 2:07 PM   #23
 Jameson
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Jameson
Tauren Warrior
 
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Originally Posted by KrunkMcGrunk View Post
I'll throw my hat in the ring and say that I was critted by Curator yesterday (yes, I know. lolololol Karazhan). I want to say it was about 5 times in 3 or so pulls. I found it to be really odd, as I was told from a few different sources that 490 Defense was supposed to make me "Crit Immune". Granted, he didn't crit me often, but it did happen.
That's highly unlikely. Are you sure you weren't crushed instead of crit? It's also possible for you character screen to say you have 490 defense but not actually be crit immune (it rounds up).

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Old 07/22/07, 3:36 PM   #24
KrunkMcGrunk
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Human Warrior
 
Durotan
Originally Posted by bankythehack View Post
That's highly unlikely. Are you sure you weren't crushed instead of crit? It's also possible for you character screen to say you have 490 defense but not actually be crit immune (it rounds up).
Yeah, turns out I read my combat log incorrectly. They were crushing blows. I use the SCL mod, and I had misread what (C) denoted.

EDIT: Gah. Now I've got 489 Def since making this post. How does this work?. Before picking up my Violet Eye ring, I had 490 def. Upon getting it, it was a flat +13 def rating. I subtracted 8 Def rating when swapping out some gems, so I should still be up 5 from before. However, I'm now at 489 =/. Something tells me that Blizzard's character pane is rounding something somewhere. Perhaps this is the root of our problems?

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Old 07/23/07, 2:17 AM   #25
Russta
King Hippo
 
Human Paladin
 
Argent Dawn (EU)
Originally Posted by Coeus View Post
The warrior could have, purposely or accidentally, sat down, too. If you have a button bound to /sit, just tapping it and starting to sit is enough to be crit.
I got crit tonight by an Ashtongue Defender during Shade of Akama with 547 defense and was scratching my head as to why. I can't believe I overlooked this, time to unbind that key.

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Old 07/23/07, 9:18 AM   #26
Grayson Carlyle
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Tauren Warrior
 
Turalyon
Not a crit... but I have a log of getting crushed 4s after using shield block and blocking only 1 attack...

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Can anyone help me figure out why that happened?

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Old 07/23/07, 9:34 AM   #27
Dots
Don Flamenco
 
Pandaren Warrior
 
Dentarg (EU)
Just the usual combatlog lag. The attack right before 'You gain Shield Block' probably already counted as the first blocked attack on the server or something like that.
I wonder if this topic will ever die. The legend will probably live on, just like Onyxia's Deep Breath.

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Old 07/23/07, 11:08 AM   #28
Meyla
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Night Elf Warrior
 
Bronzebeard (EU)
Still, don't know why got crited fighting against Hydross for 15k with def cap (dont have even sit bind on keyboard). Why?

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Old 07/23/07, 11:17 AM   #29
Hoonboof
Von Kaiser
 
Human Death Knight
 
The Venture Co (EU)
Originally Posted by Grayson Carlyle View Post
Not a crit... but I have a log of getting crushed 4s after using shield block and blocking only 1 attack...

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Can anyone help me figure out why that happened?
I can't see the log (lossendil not responding?) but you used to be able to get crushed through shield block if you used a consumable that placed your shield on your back or your shield wasn't in your hand. It's that or latency.

To the 15k hydross crit with defence capped, it's not possible, provide a screenshot or a WWS AND prove that you never sat.

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Old 07/23/07, 11:20 AM   #30
Dots
Don Flamenco
 
Pandaren Warrior
 
Dentarg (EU)
That has been fixed, you can now block while your shield is still on your back.

I agree that there needs to be better proof than 'Hey man, I got crit!'. Proving that you never sat down is going to be pretty hard though.

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