I'd like to extend my raid simulator beyond support for caster dps only.

Currently the base spell_t class understands the various schools of magic, and how +dmg, +hit, +crit, +haste all interact. I use a multi-roll system: (1) hit/miss (2) crit/normal (3) dmg reduction from resistance

After doing a little research into white-vs-yellow damage, it seems that many of the YELLOW actions of the "physical dps" classes look much like spells. It is almost as if SPELL +dmg/+hit/+crit might still apply, but the "school" is PHYSICAL so I need to use armor reduction instead of spell resistance.

For example, would Demoralizing Shout benefit from spell +hit gear?
Would Revenge benefit from spell +dmg gear?

What I'm looking for is a generalization that is MOSTLY true with occasional exceptions:

"All yellow damage uses spell hit mechanics, except for xyz..."

Or is it the other way around:

"Physical dps classses use melee hit mechanics for all white AND yellow damage, except for xyz..."

I will do all the necessary research for each class as I come to it...... but it would be nice to have some idea of general behaviour when laying the groundwork for the software architecture.

Thanks in advance for any and all advice.

If my memory serves me well, taunt - although not dealing actual damage - doesn't work off melee hit chance, but spell hit chance, thus the lovely requirement for the Dreadnaught setbonus in Naxxramas.

How about blind though?

Blind is a ranged attack, probably like shoot gun, but it applies a poison effect. I think it can be resisted, but off the top of my head I don't remember ever seeing it happen. I've definitely had them removed by poison cleansing totem, and before they fixed it to actually be a ranged attack, I had them dodged and parried, but that doesn't happen anymore.

Blind can be resisted only through talents such as Unyielding Faith, which increases your chance to resist Disorient effects. (You can try dueling another rogue and having him pop Cloak; he'll never resist it.) It can also miss when talents such as Arctic Winds are brought into play.

It's basically the same application mechanic as Serpent Sting.

Taunt and Thunder clap (crits from Spell crit), Piercing Howl, and the Fear from a Warrior count as spells so spell hit would help them land.

I can't think of other Warrior "spells", all others are melee attacks.

Poisons from a Rogue should act as spells as well, all others are melee attacks.

Seal of Command and Seal of Blood are melee hits, but they can be partially resisted (just like Arcane shot). Judgments of those should be the same, as well as Hammer of Wrath.

Exorism/Holy Shock/all other Pally dps spells are spells and use spell crit/hit.

Both also rely on melee Crit%. (Sorta implied by the 2x crit multiplier, but just to be explicit)

HoW seems to be a ranged attack. It only misses; deals 2x damage w/ melee (or ranged? worth a look) crit %, and gains from +dmg/heal.


AFAIK, JoB behaves like JoCommand.

Arcane shot is magical damage, but follows the physical ruleset for the most part. It is magical, so it can be resisted and is not affected by armor. But it can miss or be blocked, just like other shots. It is affected by a Hunter's ranged crit, ranged AP, and crits at 200% (or 230% with talents).

Are there any "spells" that do physical damage?

Ie. Go through the "magical" route for damage calculation, but damage reduction is from armor.

I believe thunderclap would meet the above requirements; it is a spell that does physical damage. It gains from spell hit/crit, however I am not sure if spell damage affects it. However the damage is determined, in the end, it is reduced by armor.

If there's any other spells like this, they don't spring to my mind right away.

Taunt follows spell mechanics, it's from the "physical" school of magic. >_>

Seal of Blood has the exact same behavior as Seal of Command does; with the only difference being that the Seal does not benefit from spell damage (While the Judgement does).

Also on a note for Paladin damage seals...

Seal of Command and Seal of Blood use melee style hit mechanics, but they do use the spell partial resist mechanics. Seal of Righteousness is guaranteed to hit if your melee swing does, and only suffers from the spell partial resist mechanics. Seal of Vengeance (From what I've heard), uses the full spell mechanics, both for hits and partial resists.

One thing I'm not sure of, but has any Paladin ever seen a debuff Judgement (Light, Wisdom, Crusader) get resisted recently? It happens fairly frequently with damage dealing judgements, but I honestly can't remember not seeing a debuff Judgement apply when used.