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Old 09/23/07, 7:09 PM   #16
SeanDamnit
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Draenei Paladin
 
Ner'zhul
I updated the initial post with a few different items discovered using lootzor, I took out Elixir of Mastery as it wouldn't stack with the Elixir of Major Agility (it still gives more avoidance than the flask), I added in the Scroll of Agility V, and I discovered that I DID include the enchant "Enchant Weapon - Greater Agility" in my inital post, but forgot or something. Stats from the enchants stay the same.

I am now at 3.64% chance to be hit (blocked hit, of course). DW isn't the best option as the shield listed offers better avoidance than any weapon, even if that weapon has another +20 agi enchant on it. Also, as Malazaar mentioned above, without a shield you turn 3.64% chance to block into 3.64% chance to be crushed.


Note that if I put mongoose on the main hand instead of the 20 agility, 100% immunity will be reached every time mongoose procs.

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Old 09/23/07, 7:14 PM   #17
Dots
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Dentarg (EU)
Yea, I didn't think of that shield.
One last thing I can come up with is Elementium Band of the Sentry - Items - World of Warcraft instead of Eternal Defender.
By the way, are the avoidance numbers you posted against level 70 or 73?

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Old 09/23/07, 7:16 PM   #18
Anarecksiek
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Forgive me if I missed this but are these statistics for a level 73? The avoidance shown on your profile is higher than the avoidance you have against bosses. Did you include that into the calculation? Forgive me if you did, I just didn't notice it.

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Old 09/23/07, 8:02 PM   #19
nova
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Generating threat might be easier than you think, since you can pretty much tank with only 5 points in protection and even in Berserker Stance :>

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Old 09/23/07, 8:03 PM   #20
SeanDamnit
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All calculations assume a level 73 mob. Level will effect how much defense effects your avoidance, so you will have more avoidance in this setup against a level 70 than a 73.

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Old 09/24/07, 1:13 AM   #21
 Shalas
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Originally Posted by nova View Post
Generating threat might be easier than you think, since you can pretty much tank with only 5 points in protection and even in Berserker Stance :>
Then you'd be a naked DPS warrior with one weapon. A Prot warrior would probably do more damage in the same gear, and beserker stance is terrible for generating threat -- 10% more damage and 3% crit do not come close to making up for -36% threat (compared to talented defensive stance).

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Old 09/24/07, 2:33 AM   #22
Zraknul
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Originally Posted by Malazaar View Post
If you are Dual-Wielding, you won't be able to block - thus you will be crushed.
The idea is to be missed, dodge, or parry 100% of incoming attacks. You don't need a shield because you will never be hit to be crushed (or the armor to mitigate the damage either).

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Old 09/24/07, 6:18 AM   #23
tmagalhaes
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Night Elf Warrior
 
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Fun concept. The principle of the glass canon applied to tanking.

Now, if there was some way to do this while dual wielding, it would be an interesting way for a Fury warrior to offtank 3 or 4 adds needing little to no heals.

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Old 09/24/07, 6:39 AM   #24
Vaccine
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As someone mentioned theres definate application for it for a couple of fights. Not like you need it but Al'ar phase 1 would be another example where a 100% avoidance tank could keep aggro indefinately without being hit. Pretty pointless but fun!

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Old 09/24/07, 7:46 AM   #25
Atren
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What about Moroes trinket instead of Scarab? I dont know whats the tradeoff so might not be upgrade.

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Old 09/24/07, 7:56 AM   #26
Multane
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Another way to "abuse" whis would be in any basic tank'n'spank fight, with a enrage that only increases the boss's melee vs the tank.

Who cares bout threat gen? You stand there Auto attack for a couple of minutes first, its not like anyone else has to do anything...

When the tank has enough threat, DPS can start a bit. Sure it'll take ages, but eventually, you'll get the kill.

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Old 09/24/07, 8:43 AM   #27
amethyst
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I can see it now ....

Guild Master: Uh guys? One of the bosses in our instance save is .... missing.
Tank: Nah, I grabbed Bob the hunter and Dave the druid and we killed him last night. Was only caster lewt. Meh.

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Old 09/24/07, 9:12 AM   #28
Thiaril
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That's a very interesting project, sounds like a lot of fun if it works!

Also, for a ring slot, if I'm not mistaken this ring, Elementium Band of the Sentry - Items - World of Warcraft, is better than the Band of the Eternal Defender, for avoidance.

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Old 09/24/07, 9:25 AM   #29
Caesar
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Moonglade (EU)
there is a 3% dodge pot you can take, it's a non-repeatable quest reward though :/

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Old 09/24/07, 10:17 AM   #30
songster
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Originally Posted by amethyst View Post
I can see it now ....

Guild Master: Uh guys? One of the bosses in our instance save is .... missing.
Tank: Nah, I grabbed Bob the hunter and Dave the druid and we killed him last night. Was only caster lewt. Meh.
Why do you need the hunter and druid? Even a warrior on his/her own will do the damage eventually, and if you're 100% immune, why risk it? :-)

That said, *are* there any melee-only bosses in the current endgame?

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