Did you actually press SEP button? Before pressing it , the SEP values for me look something like that lol. As for Agi, its pretty much result of crit being so high. I still dont see how execute gets so high O_o

As far as I know it has only 2 "modes". 1 is normal cycle of BT/WW/Heroic, Other is just execute spam. It doesnt model executes as fill in instead of heroic - hopefully the new sim Grim is working on will.

As for the whole BT/WW better then execute its somewhat double edged weapon in my opinion. It assumes you dont waste rage by going with BT/WW. I find myself often wasting rage if i BT/WW without heroic, and execute as 3rd priority. Definitely during cooldowns like recklessness, its execute all the way,

in reverse order:

Correct, execute is like a toggle switch; On or off. I looked into "hybrid" modes, but it's more trouble than it's worth in a spreadsheet. I've been thinking about it in the sim, and I think i'll be able to have it in there.

Yes, execute is factored in to the SEP calculation. It uses the overall DPS number. I just added a manual execute defeat toggle to the spreadsheet that will set execute DPS to "0" so it won't be used. It's in the buffs section. Hopefully this will be useful to those who don't wish to concentrate on cycle DPS.

I'll get [Blackened Naaru Sliver] added in presently.

Glory, thank you for the work, I'll check over all of the issues you mentioned. For reference, I haven't finished the rating cap junk yet, so don't worry about stuff broken there.

talliara, I'll check out the issues you reported as well.


Some things I've been working on:

• Re-wrote DPS additions and multipliers in a step-by-step fashion
• Corrected haste application
• Added Sanctity Aura
• Added Expose Weakness, with hunter agi and estimated up-time
• Enhanced Deep Wounds model to include up-time
• Tweaked Slam cycle timing
• Corrected several miscellaneous small bugs

I appreciate you all giving it a look over. I still have a lot of tiding up to do to get it 100% on point, then I gotta add WotLK stuff in, which shouldn't be too bad since a big reason for my re-writing so much of the sheet was to make it more modular. Easier to upgrade and add to. Hopefully Once I get all that done I'll be able to get to work on that sim.

Regarding the [Blackened Naaru Sliver]

@Glory, thank you for your analysis, that covers the fury part and is pretty much what I've seen for combat rogue analysis. From what I've read I believe this requires one hit to activate, since most analysis I've seen start you at 0 ap bonus from the trinket. I can apply that to a slower swing speed for an arms analysis, thanks.

@landsoul, yeah, I saw it was on your spreadsheet and it looks awesome for fury, I just wanted some clarification on how it stacked up and how it averaged out over time for arms actually, I should have clarified that to begin with, thank you either way.

@Grim13, that's exactly why I was asking, I wanted to add it's average benefit to your spreadsheet to see how it more or less stacked with arms. Thanks for the update.

Yeah I know, I'm sporting a Saphire for progression.

As compared to Shard of Contempt, I found Blackened Naaru Sliver to be about 15 more DPS when dual-wielding, and about 20 less DPS when two-handing. Dependant upon gear, your mileage may vary. As to a direct comparison of the procs:
____DW_2H_
SoC 085 080
BNS 130 102


I am basing my math upon 10% on-hit, 45s iCD. Obviously the BNS ramps up a lot faster for a DW user. It takes about 13.5 seconds as a 2H, and about 8 as a DW. This little experiment also helped me notice some expertise bugs. It happens when you only rewrite 85% and not 100%, hehe.

I hope for a Trinket that works reverse of BNS.

Each white hit reduces AP by 22 for 20 Hits :p -> Perfect for 2h Warry a bit minor for Ret Paladins and bad for Rogues.

My sheet is for all specs. I include a complete, albeit plain and slightly cumbersome, talent calculator (of sorts) and ALL talents are accounted for. Prot DPS rotations are also accounted for. So don't worry, you're covered for Prot DPS. I think I'm gonna put out the beta3 version tonight, which has a lot of bug fixes and the beginnings of WotLK, so you may wish to wait and d/l that version.

For Prot DPS Itemization it is the same like DW Furry, exept you need less Hit, because all your offensive spells cost 3 Rage less.

Without DW you cant use Devastate (Your Mains DPS ability, you use it All the time when WW is on CD), to dump your Massive Rage you use HS as normal. You should focus on Strength because you get +10% more strength, also your DMG done is +10% with 1-Handed Weapons -> 2 Handed Weapons are no Choice.

Thank you for the tips, I will go for DW then. And I will try out the new spreadsheet when it is available to get the stat values for gear selection.
I assume Flurry got mixed up there by mistake, right?

Grim13, that's interesting and is exactly the data I was looking for regarding the BNS and arms. Thanks.

Glory, isn't the DST the opposite of the BNS? Well, in stat reversal at least, Lol.