I know different weapon choices are best to find out with the spreadsheets and not asking. Althou its the spreadsheet from grim13 that is confusing me some here considering choice for MH. Atm im using Dragonstrike which has been shown as the strongest mainhand until the warglaive.

The version from late 2007 showed that Dragonstrike was simply amazing, althou that was a haste proc bug it seemed. The version after it was still superior thou to all epic t6 for me and the arena MH was just 2-3 dps better. Now with the betaversions Dragonstrike has dropped a lot in dps thou. Both beta and beta2 (WarriorDPS_v400beta2) shows it being inferior to many other mainhands like Syphon, Kael mace, Vanir fist ect. 1667 dps raidbuffed with Dragonstrike and 1715 dps with Syphon or Vanir fist as MH instead. It even shows that Spiteblade is on pair with Dragonstrike for me.

Has the haste been drastically decreased in value för dps in the calculation? Or is it just the Dragonstrike procc that is either wrong or now more correctly calculated? That its on pair with Spiteblade must be bit odd for a fury 17/44/0 build?

Thanks for a great spreadsheet, it has been very valuable to optimize gear and im looking forward to further versions.

Dragonstrike, while being a solid T5 option, is certainly not the best option until Warglaives/SWP. The haste is good, but it cannot compare to the dps and stats of BT and badge weapons. This can also be seen in landsoul's spreadsheet. I can't really say if the DS model is bugged in Grim13's sheet, can't open it properly with OpenOffice, but if it shows as being on par with Spiteblade something is wrong (it's a lot better than that).

Installed open office here and entered my raid buffed stats gave 1833 dps in Landsoul's spreadsheet. That is with Dragonstrike, and when i switched to 2.6 vengeful it got raised to 1839, (1839 dps as well for the cheap and boring Vanir MH). Seems about like the same dps difference as the non beta spreadsheet from Grim13 considering 2.6 vengeful. Might be very likely that Dragonstrike is bugged in the new beta sheets then?

Gotta add, Spiteblade is still better than both Dragonstrike and Vengeful onehanders in Landsoul's sheet. Seems like it's because it's incorrectly buffed with 87 agi thou.

Edit: The spreadsheet of Landsoul seems to favour slow weapons less than Grim13 also? Which makes it bit more difficult to compare.

I hope you remembered to update landsouls sheet a couple of times between each change (ctrl-shift-y). Otherwise you'll get completely wrong results. Spiteblade is however indeed bugged in landsouls sheet.

In my opinion the spreadsheets are rather untrustworthy when it comes to evaluating weapons. The effects of weapon speed on rage generation (or rather the spottiness of) cannot be modeled properly, I would treat all weapons within ~10 dps of each other as more or less equal. Just go with what you feel is right. I think DS is actually overvalued in the sheets, can't really understand why it gets such a high dps. DS is essentially a 100-104 dps ((edit: this is wrong)) weapon without any stats, not too hot when compared to badge weapons or even 100 dps weapons from MH/BT.

edit: Liar is correct, I conveniently forgot the scaling part of the damage that haste affects. The spreadsheet model is most probably correct (even though I think that, in general, slow weapons are overvalued).

It also depends on race, as humans have the Expertise of it being a mace added to the scaling haste proc. The verion of Grim's sheet I was using shows it being the same as the badge mainhand fist for a human. So, in theory, for non humans, the fist mainhand would be a slight bit better.

I am on repairing the Betasheet, as you have Changed alot there are many cell corpses who are for nothing I try to repair also reciprocal dependences like

Cell 1 is Cel 3+ Cel2
Cell 2 is Cel 4+ Cel1

So for 600 evaluations (that the Spreetsheet does for DMG evaluation) every time it stacks up and in the end you get dps numbers of 20k or higher if you want infinte (if you have the time )

If i remove most of these dependences (not all possible because Haste counters Flurry uptime and lesser Flurry uptime reduces average haste -> average haste is lower -> more Flurry uptime ...) the sheet wont break that fast.

Still got a fault i did not find jet that the SEP dont work for Haste for Set1 other Sets work :S.

Just been comparing weapons in the spreadsheet to see which is better between Soulcleaver and Jin'Rohk. Expected the substantially better stats of Soulcleaver to make up for the advantage gained from sword-spec and human racial passive but Jin'Rohk is giving me an 80dps improvement. Can this be correct or have I made an error somewhere/encountered a bug?

Why is [Soul Cleaver] not a good option? To me 80 dps difference in the favor of [Jin'rohk, The Great Apocalypse] seems like complete bullshit. I cannot check it in the spreadsheet though, due to it not working in OO. Soul cleaver has higher dps (and average swing damage) and has significantly better stats (I get 65 str+315 ArP to be about 20% better than 120 AP and 45 haste). Can the extra dps from sword spec and the human racial really account for that much and make Jin'rokh as much as 80 dps better?

Napkin math: If you have 0 expertise, then 5 expertise is giving you an additional 2.5% chance to land attacks which is roughly 2.5% more DPS.

Assuming 1500 DPS, then that's 37 DPS from the expertise alone and a 43 DPS increase from Sword Spec doesn't sound too unrealistic, does it?

5 expertise is 1.25% anti-dodge, parry is not an issue for dps warriors.

Checking it in Rawr I get Soul Cleaver to be 20 dps (or about 2% in my gear) better than Jin'rokh, but that is without weapon specs and racial expertise, so all in all I guess Jin'rokh is better for a human, but not by 80 dps.

I just reinstalled and I am getting the error that Excel 2007 has to remove some formatting that a couple others have mentioned. Search doesnt find any fix mentioned yet, is there one?
Ill try to scrounge up 2003 and see if that works.