Elitist Jerks
Register
Blogs
Urban Rivals
Forums
New Posts


Go Back   Elitist Jerks > Public Discussion > Class Mechanics
Elitist Jerks Login

gamerDNA Login

Welcome to Elitist Jerks
We're testing some new features on the site regarding OpenID registration and coordination with gamerDNA. If you experience any issues with registering an account, please take the time to fill out a report and send it to this e-mail address. We would appreciate any assistance you could provide in making sure everything is functioning as intended. Thanks!

If this is your first visit, please be sure to check out the FAQ and the forum rules. Users must register to post and new registrations are subject to a one day "mute" period to get acquainted with the community.

Reply
 
LinkBack (3) Thread Tools
Old 11/07/07, 3:18 PM   3 links from elsewhere to this Post. Click to view. #1
Bulgarth
Von Kaiser
 
Bulgarth's Avatar
 
Gnome Mage
 
Proudmoore
[Paladin] Libram Swapping macros in 2.3

In 2.3, with the introduction of the lag-free casting (queued casting), this opens the option of macroing your spells/heals with certain Librams for each individual heal. Before in 2.2 and below, swapping librams while casting caused noticable lag time and even temporary frame loss if spammed. with the "queued casting" as they call it, your spells are now queued after clicking at a certain point in the cast time, in which before casts did not queue, but only seemed liked they queued if using a stopcasting macro. What this means is that very minute operations (switching librams) can take place during the split second that the queue is up for your heal/spell cast with zero lag time.

What this means for Paladins is that we can carry around several different librams at once, each with different effects for a certain kind of heals (Libram of Absolute Truth for Holy Light only, Libram of Light for Flash of Light only), and macro them to be equipped upon the click of that spell, and continue to be swapped in with no lag time, successfully proccing that Libram effect. Here's some examples:

/equip Libram of Mending
/cast Holy Light(Rank 11)
with,
/equip Libram of Light (Souls Redeemed if the raid has BoL)
/cast Flash of Light(Rank 7)

or even this....

/equip Libram of Absolute Truth
/cast Holy Light(Rank 11)
with,
/equip Libram of Light (Souls Redeemed if the raid has BoL)
/cast Flash of Light(Rank 7)

or for those of you who picked up Libram of Grace from Fankriss in AQ40...

/equip Libram of Grace
/cast Cleanse

These macros can effectively be used for any spec of Paladin, Holy, Protection, or Retribution, you just have to know which Libram works with which spells of course.

Druids and Shamans can do this too with their relics, potentionally creating a new use for Relics that might have been inferior to another.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 11/07/07, 3:20 PM   #2
Aeds
Glass Joe
 
Dwarf Hunter
 
Mal'Ganis
I never even thought of this, thanks for the awesome info.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 11/07/07, 3:29 PM   #3
 Vinsent
Piston Honda
 
Vinsent's Avatar
 
Human Paladin
 
Silver Hand
I was under the impression that weapon or gear swaps incurred a global cool down on everything. (at least this is how it works for me on live) I don't think the stop casting change changes this at all.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 11/07/07, 3:38 PM   #4
Bulgarth
Von Kaiser
 
Bulgarth's Avatar
 
Gnome Mage
 
Proudmoore
Originally Posted by Vinsent View Post
I was under the impression that weapon or gear swaps incurred a global cool down on everything. (at least this is how it works for me on live) I don't think the stop casting change changes this at all.
I tested it on the ptr, and swapping relics don't cause a global cooldown, only the heal does. And the casting changes do effect this, the reasons I gave were simply speculation. When testing it on live I got frequent lag while switching, and even random error/spell is already being cast messages, which is not apparent in 2.3.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 11/07/07, 3:40 PM   #5
galzohar
Bald Bull
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Darksorrow (EU)
Yep, you get a global cooldown, you're supposed to swap the libram after the spell cast and not before:

#showtooltip flash of light
/stopcasting
/cast flash of light
/equip...

the only change for 2.3 is that you will no longer need to write the /stopcasting part...
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 11/07/07, 4:03 PM   #6
Scurn
Von Kaiser
 
Tauren Druid
 
Darkspear
Originally Posted by Bulgarth View Post
I tested it on the ptr, and swapping relics don't cause a global cooldown, only the heal does. And the casting changes do effect this, the reasons I gave were simply speculation. When testing it on live I got frequent lag while switching, and even random error/spell is already being cast messages, which is not apparent in 2.3.
Swapping librams/relics/idols is treated as a weapon swap and will only impose a global cooldown if swapped while in combat. Swap the libram after your start casting a long spell, >1.5 seconds, and you'll get full benefit for that spell and see no negative side effects.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 11/07/07, 4:10 PM   #7
JulianMaiev
Von Kaiser
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Maiev
Does this work with instant casts?

As in, is this viable for prot paladins?
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 11/07/07, 4:20 PM   #8
Zraknul
Great Tiger
 
Zraknul's Avatar
 
Blood Elf Paladin
 
Hyjal
I don't think it'd work for prot libram swapping since they trigger immediately, and you are swapping before the spell is finished casting. You'd have to swap first, so holyshield/ judgments would come 1.5 seconds after you hit the key.

Edit:
I don't know if I'd bother, but you could potentially gain upwards of 7 mp5 by having 2 HL macros of your standard rank, one with equiping Libram of Mending, and the other with Libram of Absolute Truth. Landing the Mending one every ~10 seconds.

Last edited by Zraknul : 11/07/07 at 4:26 PM.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Old 11/08/07, 12:40 AM   #9
Xav
Slayer of Tanks
 
Xav's Avatar
 
Human Warrior
 
Sen'jin
It does indeed cause a global while in combat. Which means if you start a heal and then cancel (common, duh), you're going to be running into globals everywhere and really impair yourself. I don't recommend it, although it looks good on paper and when you're fooling around with the macros out of combat and how nifty they are.
 
User is offline.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Go Back   Elitist Jerks > Public Discussion > Class Mechanics

Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Seeking advice: *fast* target swapping probiscus Player vs. Player 45 07/29/07 11:00 AM
Totem Swapping Macro Help WraithTwo User Interface and AddOns 5 06/20/07 12:53 PM
Quick weapon swapping mod like Trinket Menu? nfw User Interface and AddOns 2 06/19/07 11:46 AM
Hunter trinkets and Feign Death swapping Xaeroflex Public Discussion 47 11/15/06 8:25 PM
Hunter Trinket swapping during patchwerk? Hannibal Public Discussion 16 08/31/06 3:06 AM