I'm not familiar with WWS parses, but don't they go to milliseconds? The mod I use for tracking deaths goes into milliseconds, and is [tag] encoded. Go to the mod forum here on EJ and look up Assessment for more info on that, you could probably make your own module for tracking fireball timers.

If you can wait for 2.4, the combat log is receiving a HUGE overhaul to how it functions for more accurate statistic tracking.

Sorry im kind of confused - why doesn't my theory work? Instead of ignite ticking every two seconds (as done with a rank 3 fireball) if there was a "travel" time of a whole one second, then what i mean is you can potentially extend that to three seconds.

This is because every time you crit - the ignite stack "refreshes" back to zero, and the conditions have been met to roll the ignite (the ignite ticks during the fireball travel time, thus being a "free" tick)

Ok, maybe its pushing it to say that there is a 1 second travel time, but even a 0.5 second travel time would mean you only need <2.5 second casts.

Look at my post above showing a rolling half ignite...it goes down to the MS...and yes it is from wws from the night before.



And to Evice

Yes that is correct...but it would be rather difficult to see 12k ignites as that would take quite a few crits in a row during IV or bloodlust. 5-6 K is more reasonable as you'll see one in my log above. However the actual single tick of the ignite doesn't matter quite as much...just the % dmg done. I'd like to see logs of someone critting at around 2.0 seconds more than 3-4 times in a row to see if you gain over 50% ignite dmg.

In searix's screenshot on the first page he appears to have done 62% more damage over intended ignite damage. That was with a 4 crit streak.

Before Patch 2.3.2, I have used multiple times "begin to cast then pet-nova" Edit: Shatter applies. I have started using it since it was giving me more control. I am hoping it did not change with new patch, I didn't have chance to test it yet.

Calculations are done at the completion of the spell cast.

Confirming damage is calculated at the end of the spellcast -- if you prefer, when you pay the mana (ignoring clearcasting here obviously). 'As it leaves your hand'.

Yes, this is why you take illidan crown over hyjal pants.
edit: or better yet, wand of the forgotten star.

Maybe I didn't word it exactly as I was thinking.

Since Fireballs travel the same speed no matter what distance you're from the mob, it does not matter how far away you are from the mob for the rolling ignites to happen.

Taking Fax's theory of Fireballs travel speed of about 40yards/sec, if you're casting at 2second Fireballs, total time for the Fireball from start of cast is 3 seconds to land. But, the next Fireball cast is 1sec through the cast by the time the first Fireball lands, leaving 2s till this one lands, allowing for the rolling ignites to happen. Now if we reverse the distance, and make it 0, you still land fireballs every 2seconds, making it so that your distance from the mob has zero effect on whether the ignite tick will roll, just your cast time.

Using your 4 sec travel time, and the needed 2s cast, this means for the time since first cast, 5 seconds after the first cast, the fireball is 1 sec from the target, and your 2nd cast is now 3 seconds from the target, and you're 1sec into your third cast already.

So again, distance from the mob has ZERO impact on your ability to roll ignites. The problem with distance is when your target is moving, making the travel time vary.

From my looking at the gear, comparing to what I had, it was 7 crit rating more for the loss of 6 damage compared to what I'm using. That combo does provide a little more health though.

Woah ok - back to the post i made earlier - if i lay it out like this
Fireballs have a 2.9999 second cast time (about) and have a 1 second travel time

0 - cast fireball
3 - fireball leaves hand - chaincast next fireball
4 - fireball crits, ignite starts
6 - second fireball is released *just* before first ignite tick, and chaincast next fireball
6 - ignite has a "free tick" because it ticks during the travel time (6-7) of the second fireball
7 - second fireball crits, and resets ignite to 0, but calculates ignite damage to be as if there were no ticks (rolling)
9 - third fireball leaves hand
9 - second "ignite" tick happens just after the fireball leaves hand (during travel time - free tick)
10 - third fireball lands, crits, and resets ignite stack, but rolls all three fireballs together.

Am i missing something - with the above example, with about (10?) spellhaste - we have achieved rolling ignites, *purely* due to the travel time. So travel time *must* matter

Ofc - it doesn't help my post earlier in the thread was ignored slightly to understand this - but ill say again - i still beleive you can roll ignites using only passive haste, and not too much of it either.

Did you mean <=2 seconds? Edit: just remove this post, was too fast